[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Christian Marc Schmidt]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
> UI.

If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination,
we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of
identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree
with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of
the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work
well I think.

I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators
and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO
and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home.


Christian

>
> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
> loading" context communicated by grey.
>
> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey
>
> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
> "usually" loads is I think desirable
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
>>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
>>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
>>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
>>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
>>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
>>>> as
>>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>>>> original
>>>> would be:
>>>>
>>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>>> (seems
>>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
>>>> dots
>>>> show progress just fine)
>>>
>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>>
>>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
>>>> 12
>>>> feels more natural to me)
>>>
>>> Agree with that, too.
>>
>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>
>>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>>> iconography on colour use)
>>>
>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>>> UI...
>>
>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>>
>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> --Gary
>>>>
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Night,
>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>> treatments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>>>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
>>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view if
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software release,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig in
>>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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