[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
UI.

I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
loading" context communicated by grey.

I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey

I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
(especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
"usually" loads is I think desirable

thanks

Sean


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>
>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>
>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
>>> as
>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>>> original
>>> would be:
>>>
>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>> (seems
>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
>>> dots
>>> show progress just fine)
>>
>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>
>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
>>> 12
>>> feels more natural to me)
>>
>> Agree with that, too.
>
> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>
>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>> iconography on colour use)
>>
>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>> UI...
>
> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>
> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>>> uploaded
>>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>>
>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Night,
>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> treatments.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum
>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really
>>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view if
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software release,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the
>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig in
>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the
>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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