[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
Gary C Martin
gary at garycmartin.com
Sat May 30 12:22:28 EDT 2009
On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
> I agree with your points--comments below:
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin
> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO
>>> in
>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI,
>>> and in
>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few
>>> seconds,
>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to
>>> lose
>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will
>>> attest
>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>
>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a
>> child as
>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>> original
>> would be:
>>
>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>> (seems
>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity,
>> appearing dots
>> show progress just fine)
>
> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less
> forced.
>
>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock
>> (12 to 12
>> feels more natural to me)
>
> Agree with that, too.
Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>> iconography on colour use)
>
> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set
> in the UI...
Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this
suggestion ;-)
I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet'
so I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots
appearing in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about
showing them all as grey from the start, and then lighting up with
colour.
Regards,
--Gary
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>> uploaded
>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>
>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Night,
>>>> --Gary
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably
>>>> worth
>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>> alternative
>>>> treatments.
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping
>>>>> screenshots, do
>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>
>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within
>>>>>> the Sugar
>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the
>>>>>> previous SoaS
>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring.
>>>>>> So kids
>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling
>>>>>> sequence for
>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot
>>>>>>> Screen
>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for
>>>>>>> inspiration?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea
>>>>>>>>> brewing for
>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our
>>>>>>>>>>> SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>> Yum
>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old
>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar logo
>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing
>>>>>>>>>>> there was
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of
>>>>>>>>>> view if
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software
>>>>>>>>>>> release,
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of
>>>>>>>>>> olpc.tar.bz2 it
>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the
>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order.
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a
>>>>>>>>>> dig in
>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just
>>>>>>>>>> wondering if
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the
>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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