[IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

[Caryl Bigenho]

Right...but, it isn't just the bootable stick, the live CD has the same problem.  When it is in the optical drive at startup and the option key is pressed, it should show up in the window with the other options.  It doesn't.  Could it be missing the same thing the usb stick is missing?

Caryl

> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 02:45:12 +0200
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?
> From: sdaly.be at gmail.com
> To: rgesthuizen at gmail.com
> CC: cbigenho at hotmail.com; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
> 
> Part of the problem is that the bootable stick does not appear in the
> list of bootable volumes on Option keypress at boot time. Nor, for
> that matter, on the list of boot volumes in the System/Startup Disk
> section of System Preferences.
> 
> The advantage of the bless approach is to simplify use through
> scripting; no installation of anything is necessary (although admin
> permissions may be); a user could insert the key, click on an "OSX
> startup" icon, and (when the bug gets fixed) reliably boot directly
> into SoaS without touching the hard disk. The --nextonly switch
> assures return to the usual environment on following boot; it would
> suffice to reinsert the key and reclick the icon for a subsequent
> Sugar session.
> 
> Sean.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Roland Gesthuizen
> <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > More or less what rEFIt does, in a sense the option key is automatically
> > pressed on each start up so that users can pick the boot option ..
> > autodetection of available OS'ssome eye candy with pictures to click on and
> > no need to tell students to quickly hit the option key on startup. Something
> > is missing in the Sugar iso / stick, I reckon it is a minor addition or fix.
> > I wish I knew more so I could help but I will have to leave it for the
> > bigger players.
> >
> > Apple has jumped ahead by adopting Intel's EFI standard in the new Macs to
> > provide a stable interface between the hardware platform and the OS. We can
> > expect that others will adopt this feature. A distribution that correctly
> > identifies itself with OSX on a key or cdrom iso will gain more crediability
> > with network administrators when teachers ask for it to be deployed or used
> > in the classroom.
> >
> > Regards Roland
> >
> > 2009/5/25 Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> Hi Caroline,
> >>
> >> I had an idea in the shower this am (some of my best ideas come while I am
> >> in the shower).  I think I may know what is going on with the Macs and live
> >> Sugar CDs and how it might be fixed.
> >>
> >> According to Apple, when you boot with the option key down, the computer
> >> looks for all bootable items, eg the Mac HD, a Windows section (via Boot
> >> Camp), an external drive, a USB stick, or a CD in the Macs optical drive.
> >> The item must contain all elements needed to be bootable.  Sooo....
> >>
> >> The live CD as downloaded is missing something!  The question is, "What?"
> >> It may be the things that are on the boot-helper that is supposed to work
> >> with SoaS (and which didn't work for me...only the Virtual Box thing has
> >> worked so far).
> >>
> >> So....Maybe someone can figure out what the missing elements are and add
> >> them to create a Mac version of the live CD.  Better still...maybe they can
> >> also figure out how to get it to work on the older non-intel Powerbooks
> >> running on the same OSX that the MacBooks use.  Make it OS dependent rather
> >> than hardware dependent.
> >>
> >> Know any programming wizards who could take this on?
> >>
> >> Caryl
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: cbigenho at hotmail.com
> >> To: caroline at solutiongrove.com
> >> CC: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> Subject: RE: [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?
> >> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:27:00 -0700
> >>
> >> Hi Caroline,
> >>
> >> I haven't gotten the cd to work yet.  Created 2 on the Mac. Neither
> >> works.  Wonder if making it on the Windows side would do it...will try to
> >> find out how to do that.  USB didn't work, even with the boot-helper.  I
> >> can, and have, run Sugar with the Virtual Box.  In fact, I keep it in my
> >> toolbar.
> >>
> >> I have been busy with our family business the past few days.  I might have
> >> a little time tonight to try some other things. But houseguests come
> >> tomorrow afternoon and we leave for MT soon after they leave.  Won't have
> >> much time to play with this until I get back to MT.
> >>
> >> Caryl
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 10:22:55 +0200
> >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?
> >> From: caroline at solutiongrove.com
> >> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com
> >> CC: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>
> >> Hi Caryl,
> >>
> >> How is it going?
> >>
> >> I know of two potentail issues.
> >>
> >> 1. Getting the right materials. At sugar camp we found that the USB
> >> created on the macbook was not working, only a PC created USB seemed to
> >> work. Plus you need both the USB and the boot helper.
> >>
> >> 2. some macbooks have a bug, when you boot everything goes fine through
> >> most of the boot and just when you are about to get to Sugar you get a
> >> mostly black screen with a sqiggle in the middle.
> >>
> >> Where are you at? I especially need people with problem #2 because I don't
> >> have a test machine that shows it and its a show stopper for me for all work
> >> in Boston Public Schools because their macbooks have this issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Caroline
> >>
> >> 2009/5/20 Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk.  I would
> >> like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook.  Does anyone know how
> >> to do this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Caryl
> >>
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