[IAEP] [Marketing] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

[Walter Bender]

Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
infrastructure.

-walter

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:41 AM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that there is a kind of formal technical/distribution position
> forming here. Ie... someone that would be responsible for supporting
> distribution methods of sugar (this should not be confused with QA,
> bugsquad or anything else) It just needs to be a person that can say
> all the available methods of distribution, and perhaps working on
> communication between distros and Sugar team... what do u guys think?
> Marten or I are both capable of doing this job just fine, but it kind
> of overlaps with the infrastructure team... we'd need to be sure like
> Marten says we have access to a server to set up rsync, torrent
> distribution and even our own build Service (openSUSE build service is
> totally gpl ;-)   ) What should this position be called, I have no
> idea, I came up with lateral distro architect, but I have no idea if
> that is specific enough or even too generic.
>
> What do u think? perhaps forming a team that me and marten can be
> integrated with seams obvious for the time being. Both of us also want
> to work towards centralised distribution methods that are push and not
> just pull, whatever they might be. I'm forwarding this to sugar-devel
> as well as this has to do with them too, and an olpc rep so that we
> can make sure they know what we are doing with sugar distribution.
>
> kind Regards,
> David (Nubae) Van Assche
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>> Thanks David,
>>
>> I will go for bandwith then asking for rsync as requirement.
>> A torrend would optional.
>>
>> Some things I would like to assure mirrors have to:
>> - have directory layout
>> - same names
>>
>> Features I would also like to have
>> - having a "Last_version" symlink to the last version.
>>  (keep links valid over time)
>> - md5sums
>> - list of mirrors on the website
>> - or better mirror autoselection
>>
>>
>> Besides from getting bandwidth is there a way I can help to achieve
>> this? (I guess ssh access would be needed)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Marten
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 12:10 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>>> One thing solution we use at openSUSE to get increcremental images,
>>> ie... you have an older version of SOAS or sugar or whatever image,
>>> but you want a newer one, well solution is to use rsync, but this
>>> would need to be enabled by the host (ie wherever all this is being
>>> hosted downloaded from [bernie, caroline?]):
>>>
>>> First check the latest image at:
>>>
>>> (This definetly works with openSUSE where sugar is completely
>>> integrated, even with an icon on the desktop that takes you straight
>>> into sugar from the desktop. The address for either SugarSuse or
>>> openSUSE-edu is here:
>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/images/iso/ )
>>>
>>> The Soas images (snapshots, ie latests sugar) are here as far as I can
>>> tell: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/
>>>
>>> Copy old image with exactly same name as new image available:
>>>
>>> cp oldimage.iso exact-name-new-image-is.iso
>>>
>>> Run rsync again to patch it:
>>>
>>> rsync -avP rsync://mirror.leaseweb.com/opensuse/repositories/Education/images/iso/exact-name-new-image-is.iso
>>> .
>>>
>>> Dot at the end with space before it is part of the command.
>>>
>>> This will download only the bytes that have changed, which in some
>>> cases is just few MBs, saving few GBs of download.
>>>
>>> Obviously p2p is another good solution to get initial images going if
>>> a couple of people choose to upload to linuxtracker.org or
>>> something...
>>>
>>> kind Regards,
>>> David (Nubae) Van Assche
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>>> > Dear All,
>>> >
>>> > In the last 24 hours I talked to 12 persons about Sugar.
>>> >
>>> > - 6 persons have downloaded sugar and said to give feedback on Sugar
>>> >
>>> > - I have send a request for testing to i-network at dgroups.org.
>>> > This is one the main mailinglistings in Africa.
>>> >
>>> > My findings so far:
>>> > 1. Asking people to help works. I ask can you help me. Can you download
>>> > an iso, burn it to cd, boot it, and give you opinion an email?
>>> > This is very effective in shifting from "talking about" to "doing".
>>> >
>>> > 2. The download seems to be slow.
>>> >
>>> > Possible sollution, shall I ask for bandwith to mirror the iso image?
>>> > Can someone make familiar with an optimal solution
>>> > (syncing/redirecting).
>>> >
>>> > kind regards,
>>> > Marten
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
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>>> > http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/         The Network Event Kit
>>> > http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
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>>> >
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>> http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas  Sugar on a Stick
>> http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/         The Network Event Kit
>> http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
>> http://opencommunitycamp.org         26th Jul - 2nd August
>>
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