[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock frame device

[pgf at laptop.org]

is the choice of an analog clockface feasible?  it's not like
analog watches have gone away, and i'd think that on a learning
platform, especially, that it would be a good option.

paul

p.s.  translation:  "are we sure it's a bikeshed we should be
building?"  :-)

eben wrote:
 > 
 > 1. I think that we need to show the leading 0 when the hour is a one
 > digit number, eg. 08:07. Otherwise everything in the Frame is going to
 > shift depending on the time.
 > 
 > 2. I find the radio buttons a little odd. I wonder if we could have a
 > single menu item that either a) reads "Use 24 hour clock" and uses a
 > checkmark to show its state or b) toggles between "Use 24 hour clock"
 > and "Use 12 hour clock" when clicked.
 > 
 > 3. We could expose some more useful info in the palette, both primary
 > and secondary. The primary palette, for instance, could read:
 > 
 > My Clock
 > Friday, May 8, 2009
 > 
 > I'd put the date label in the secondary string, so we can retain the
 > standard practice of listing the device name in the primary. Including
 > the day of the week would be nice, and displaying the date in a human
 > friendly manner will make it feel less cold & "computery". I also
 > think (this is a future feature suggestion, and needn't be there in a
 > first pass) that the secondary palette should have a nice little
 > inline calendar as well.
 > 
 > 4. This is another future suggestion: we've talked in the past about
 > having an option on various devices which jumps directly to the
 > corresponding section of settings. This device should have a "Show
 > Date & TIme Settings" option when we add that capability.
 > 
 > 5. Finally, I'd like to see if it's at all readable if we limit the
 > clock to a single unit like the rest of the devices icons.
 > 
 > I'll try to make some mockups of all of these thoughts before
 > tomorrow's design meeting. Let me know your thoughts on the
 > suggestions.
 > 
 > Eben
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Martin Dengler <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
 > > [ccing sugar-devel as well]
 > >
 > > On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:18:02AM +1000, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
 > >> > The below patch adds a clock device to the frame:
 > >> Thanks Martin, I have wanted a clock for a long time.
 > >>
 > >> Can we please have an idiots guide for installation?
 > >
 > > Unfortunately, you can't yet in any released version of Sugar.  The
 > > purpose of my mail was not to give anyone besides a developer code
 > > they could actually use (sorry for the disapointment - I should have
 > > pointed this out very clearly).  The purpose was both to solicit
 > > another round of feedback on the design/behavior, and also to
 > > demonstrate that I had actually written some code that did it (note I
 > > do not say "the best code" nor "the code anyone believes should be
 > > released").
 > >
 > > If you have a moment to suggest any improvements you can think of that
 > > would be most helpful.  I can't guarantee to implement them all but I
 > > (and the Sugar world) am listening seriously.  The links again are:
 > >
 > > 
 > http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/screenshot_clock_device_frame-06_a6_a689bf1e-3f
 > 34-4da3-afed-aa910ab4f677.png
 > > 
 > http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/screenshot_clock_device_frame-07_84_841da15d-9b
 > d7-4fe4-aada-8e8ab723f806.png
 > > 
 > http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/screenshot_clock_device_frame-08_4b_4ba1059e-4d
 > b9-4f22-8661-7916f6a167f8.png
 > >
 > > However, if you happen to be running SoaS, you can run the clock
 > > "as-is".  Start the Terminal activity and execute (cut & paste) these
 > > commands:
 > >
 > > su -
 > > cd /usr/share/sugar/extensions/deviceicon
 > > wget http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/clock.py
 > >
 > > ...and then restart Sugar by pressing Control-Alt-Erase at the same
 > > time.
 > >
 > > If there's enough interest someone (maybe I) may backport the clock to
 > > the currently-released-but-very-old-in-developer-terms Sugar software.
 > >
 > > You may also be interested in my prior clock design, which I did
 > > backport to the latest released OLPC build:
 > > 
 > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:MartinDengler#Build_767_.2F_801_.28current_stable
 > .29
 > >
 > > Martin
 > >
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 paul fox, pgf at laptop.org