[IAEP] [Marketing] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki

David Farning dfarning at sugarlabs.org
Tue Mar 17 09:38:45 EDT 2009

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I saw that last night already. Hopefully, it will stay that way,
> but that's not certain since the wiki is very active and sites such as
> OLPCNews and Laptop Mag
> (http://blog.laptopmag.com/sugar-labs-new-version-of-sugar-learning-platform-is-netbook-and-pc-ready)
> which picked up the release link directly to the download page.
> The press page is also well indexed, and as the news release went
> through PR Newswire the press contact info will be googlable for the
> next few years at least :-)
> By the way, this morning, Google search for "sugar learning" is #2, #3, and #4.
> However, what I am really thrilled about is "Sugar on a Stick" where
> we are #1, and 8 out of the top ten! beating out lollipops, crystals,
> rock candy and swizzlers ;-)
> And... the educators targeted mailing isn't even out yet, only the US
> and FR journalists (275).
> All that said, I'd do an Irish jig if I knew how to change this text
> under the Google results link:
> "Spin-off of the "Sugar" desktop environment to another project."
> I object to both "Spin-off" and "desktop", I'd much rather read something like:
> "Innovative learning software environment for children"

We used the terms 'sipn-off from OLPC' and 'originally developed for
OLPC' to communicate Sugar's history.

Now, you are right, it is time for Sugar to stand as it's own product.


> thanks
> Sean
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:31, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> With the luck of St. Patty, we will be much better indexed by Google
>>> tomorrow and thus able to go back to a single window ;-)
>> Looks like that did it.
>> Cheers,
>> Tomeu
>>> Sean
>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>>>> Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>> I agree the integration between the static intro, the wiki, and a.sl.o
>>>>> is clunky. We will be standardizing the navbar at the top of all three
>>>>> sections when we can, as well as editing redundant content in the
>>>>> wiki.
>>>>> Today, we will be welcoming a large number of first-time visitors and
>>>>> they will very surely be disoriented if they start their visit by
>>>>> clicking around on the wiki, which is a possible scenario since Google
>>>>> indexes the wiki before the static intro (a flipflop from the behavior
>>>>> over the past two weeks, but it turns out that Google was fooled when
>>>>> showing www.sugarlabs.org in #1 position; they meant to show
>>>>> wiki.sugarlabs.org). This is why it is absolutely vital that the front
>>>>> door of the site be very easy to find. We are communicating with the
>>>>> media on "www.sugarlabs.org" and hopefully today there will be lots of
>>>>> external links to that address which will mitigate the importance of
>>>>> supplying navigation to the homepage.
>>>>> It's true that graf in the wiki homepage needs to be fixed, it should
>>>>> better say:
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> If you ever get lost, just click on "wiki" at the top of the screen.
>>>>> To visit the main homepage of www.sugarlabs.org, click the logo in the
>>>>> upper left corner.
>>>>> </snip>
>>>>> I agree the separate browser window is clunky too, but since for
>>>>> first-time visitors the wiki and a.sl.o are easy to get to but hard to
>>>>> get out of, it's much better the main homepage and introduction stay
>>>>> available in another window.
>>>> Ironically this is extremely bad for our one-window Sugar Browser. I would
>>>> also vote to open it in the same window - not just for that reason (does not
>>>> mean we have to change that today :).
>>>> Regards,
>>>>   Simon
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