[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

Wade Brainerd wadetb at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 10:41:38 EDT 2009

On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com>  

> Wade Brainerd wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>>> Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools.   
>>>> It's
>>>> just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would
>>>> save a conversion step for most VM users.
>>>> I agree that we should be providing 1 click solutions *in  
>>>> addition* to
>>>> providing .vmdk files for people who already use VMs regularly.
>>> Right, VMDK is not easily reusable though, for Parallels you have  
>>> to perform
>>> a few steps to reuse it.
>>> One click solution is the goal of course. QEMU really isn't that  
>>> solution
>>> unless you can use acceleration. The speed is pretty much unusable
>>> otherwise, and that is really only useful for testing if you are  
>>> very
>>> patient. Anyone who needs a 1-click installer also would expect  
>>> reasonable
>>> performance.
>>> I haven't found an easy way to get QEMU working with acceleration  
>>> on OS X.
>>> I think we are working towards a solution, just not as quickly as  
>>> we would
>>> like.
>>> Dave
>> I brought up VMware Virtual Appliances as an option at one point, has
>> anyone tried creating one of those? I'm not sure how close to "one
>> click" they are though.
>> VirtualBox appears to have the beginnings of some appliance support  
>> as well.
>> Best,
>> Wade
> Okay folks,
> sorry for the late reply, as I just came across this thread (I was a  
> bit behind my e-mail). So let me explain some things:
> There are the appliance-tools (www.thincrust.net) available which do  
> in fact exactly the thing which has been discussed here. You can  
> even specify a output file type, so that you'd get vmdk, raw or  
> other files.
> Sounds cool, heh? :)
> Well, what I've done now is that I've taken our kickstart files and  
> made one for the appliance creation up out of them. It's also in the  
> soas GIT repo. Then I worked on getting appliance-tools to work on  
> our build systems (thanks erikos here!) and it now creates  
> flawlessly such a .vmdk file.
> I already gave it a try and it boots, but doesn't come up with the  
> Sugar desktop, but fails when trying to log in.
> A good idea would be probably to have these images built together  
> with the other snapshots.
> Cheers,
> --Sebastian

Awesome, nice work Sebastian!  I'll check these out on Monday if you  
send me a link.


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