[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

Dave Bauer dave.bauer at gmail.com
Thu Mar 12 16:12:22 EDT 2009

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Dave Bauer <dave.bauer at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Luke Faraone <luke at faraone.cc> wrote:
>> >>>> Virtualbox is Free and potentially similar.  Also, coLinux
>> >>>> requires Administrator privileges to run, so students on school
>> computers
>> >>>> probably can't use it.[1]
>> >>> Don't VMs on Windows require admin privileges to install and/or run (I
>> >>> honestly don't know)?
>> >>
>> >> I presume that we can package up the emulator as just some .exe on a
>> USB
>> >> stick, to be run without needing installation.
>> >
>> > VirtualBox and VMWare all need drivers in the Windows kernel, so you
>> > are limitted to amazingly slow quemu.
>> QEMU is plenty fast when you install the acceleration service.  What
>> it lacks is a simple installer.
>> > Finally, we cannot legally redistribute VMware and the interesting
>> > parts of VirtualBox like USB and rdesktop support.
>> We can redistribute VMware player as part of a Virtual Appliance.
>> But really, all we need to be doing is producing .vmdk files (virtual
>> disk images) for our SoaS snapshots.  These files can be loaded in any
>> of VMware, VirtualBox and Parallels, and can be used with QEMU after a
>> command line conversion step.
> You need the VMware, VirtualBox, or Parallels specifc extensions and
> drivers, so we really end up needing one image for each platform to make
> this easy for people to use. Hackers can of course, always customize the
> I just tried coverting the VirtualBox VDI and learned that Parallels can't
> just load the image, it needs the VMware or VirtualBox VM configuration file
> that goes with the VM to do the import.
> I am sure its possible, but it's a little trickier than it looks.

Ok, I was able to take the Virtualbox VM and conver it to run in Parallels,
but its not easy and you definitely need to install the Parallels Tools. I
also have created a new Parallels native VM based on SoaS slightly modifying
the instructions to build the VM on Virtualbox.


> Dave
>> Once we have a stream of .vmdk files coming, we can move on to
>> creating Virtual Appliances or other easier to use solutions.
>> Check out http://dev.laptop.org/~wadeb/OLPC-XO-Software-8.2.0-Setup.exe<http://dev.laptop.org/%7Ewadeb/OLPC-XO-Software-8.2.0-Setup.exe>
>> for an example of a QEMU-based installer for Windows.  This uses
>> OLPC's 8.2.0 release but could be easily retargeted at SoaS.
>> Cheers,
>> Wade
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Dave Bauer
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