[IAEP] Adults and Sugar

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Sun Mar 1 05:06:20 EST 2009

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 09:49, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
> I recommend that you not worry about Albert. He doesn't get it, and
> doesn't see why anybody else should. He says that he wants nothing to
> do with Constructionism.

Can we declare that discussing if it's worth trying to do things
differently is off topic in the Sugar mailing lists? Otherwise, we
will waste quite a bit of time with every troll that decides to hang
around here.

I think that if we thought that challenging the status quo wasn't
something worth trying, we wouldn't be subscribed to these mailing
lists in the first place.

We have lots of work to do and lots of useful criticism to process.



> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:17:23 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Adults and Sugar
>>> From: acahalan at gmail.com
>>> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> Caryl Bigenho writes:
>>> > One man sat in front of the XO for several minutes with a puzzled
>>> > look on his face. Finally he asked, "Where is your file manager?"
>>> > I explained that he needed to forget everything he knew about
>>> > computers and just pretend he was a child again. He got up in
>>> > disgust and left.
>>> He asked a simple question and you blew him off. Adults use
>>> communication to avoid wasting time.
>>> Had you tried to explain, you might have gotten better feedback.
>>> Of course, then you need to avoid being dismissive of the feedback.
>> No, I didn't "blow him off" at all. I started to explain it to him and as
>> you might say "he blew me off."
>>> > Meanwhile, nearby, a little boy, about 8-years-old was happily
>>> > exploring Sugar.
>>> I'm sure he was, but "exploring" is not the same thing as being
>>> productive.
>> It was his first experience.  He took a picture and was delighted.  Other
>> children came by who had used the XO before and actually showed some of the
>> adults how to create things in Squeak and Synth Lab.  This is not what I
>> would call not being productive in either case.
>> The next time you spend an entire weekend managing a booth, alone most of
>> the time, with 7 XOs and hundreds of visitors and no lunch breaks I will
>> give more credence to your remarks.  Thank goodness Jonathan Pfeiffer came
>> to help out on Sunday and my non-techie husband handed me food as I was
>> talking to people about the XO, Sugar, the CP, volunteering and the like.
>> Sorry for the rant folks, those of you who know me know this is very rare.
>> Caryl
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