[IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

Eben Eliason eben.eliason at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 10:35:03 EDT 2009

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo
>> Christian - I myself prefer the "rays" to dots which I feel too
>> closely resemble networks in the Neighborhood view, confusion is
>> possible (networks being connected to at startup?)
>> Fred - I'm willing to try that sunrise metaphor, tonight if I can
>> (travelling today)
>> Re splash page with logo: in my next mockup I'll leave off the example
>> school logo.and move that frame to the end. It might be better to
>> "reserve" a frame for customizable logo or message, before or after
>> the Sugar spash page
> Yes, in that mockup the first screen is kind of overwhelming with
> several logos and a few pieces of textual information. At the same
> time, we tried very hard to eliminate the slideshow effect that feels
> (well, is) like a bunch of marketing material that detracts from the
> UI.
> I think the Sugar logo should stand alone, so it reads powerfully, and
> then be replaced in short order by the XO. Perhaps we could entertain
> a text only solution to identifying the school, in gray beneath the
> sugar logo. Thoughts?
>> Version info: In fact I feel strongly about showing version
>> information... or its corollary, making it easy to find. Teachers,
> I think it's more important that we make it easy to find in the UI.
> Kids won't reboot that often, and it would be silly to reboot just to
> find that info.
>> parents, admins, G1G1 donors unfamiliar with Sugar will not have the
>> foggiest idea how to hunt down version information (Learners might not
>> have trouble finding it - they will explore their machines ad
>> infinitum - but they can't be expected to know about versioning). We
>> are about to embark on hundreds of thousands of XO-1.5s running v0..84
>> which will coexist with a huge installed base of v0.82 (and many
>> earlier); SoaS with its simplified numbering scheme will (we hope) sow
>> the seeds for preinstalled Sugar in distributions for education
>> projects. We may be deploying v0.86 at the end of the year... aside
>> from how we manage the Activity compatibility matrix, we need to make
>> such info *extremely* easy to track down for someone interested in
>> checking if Sugar + Activities are "up-to-date". Our strategy for
>> teacher buy-in is star marketing on Activities (see press releases);
>> making Activity installation/upgrade simple this summer is part of
>> what we need to do to make SoaS possible in the classroom. Helping
>> users understand what version they have (of Sugar, of each Activity)
>> is a key aspect of that.
>> I agree that it's unpleasant to see numbers at boot time (especially a
>> datestamped snapshot number). Why don't we borrow an idea from Apple?
> We basically have this already. We ust happen to have an XO in the
> center of the screen, instead of an apple icon in the upper left. The
> info is actually in the "About my XO" section of the settings, which
> might be one step too far. We could go back to an earlier design for
> the XO menu and have a direct "About my XO" menu item which jumps
> directly to the correct settings panel.
> We could also separate the "About my XO" panel from settings, removing
> it from the settings panel completely and showing it as it's own modal
> dialog accessible via an "About my XO" menu item.
> I would be fine with either approach.
>> They have a tiny apple icon in the upper-left corner of the screen;
>> clicking on it opens a window with the processor, RAM and OSX version
>> number. In addition to the "About my computer" section in the Control
>> Panel, perhaps we could show the version in the Frame? The bottom bar
>> has room I think.
> There's no need to expose this information directly. It will only be
> needed on occasion, and the Frame is designed for the information you
> want to carry with you all the time.
>> When we start to get consolidated feedback, we will know if
>> difficult-to-find version info is a problem for Sugar / Activity
>> updaters or not. I feel sure it is and showing the version in the
>> Frame (the one-glance status communicator) seems to me a good approach
>> which would let us skip info in the splash screen.
>> Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color
>> too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask "what color is the
>> Sugar logo?" and match that to the version number.
> I would much rather see the logo change colors with each boot, but

I meant to take this back before sending, and forgot to. I actually
think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea.


> changing with each release is a pretty cool idea. I would support
> that. I think there are enough of combinations to make "wrapping
> around" a non-issue, as long as we only change the color for major
> releases (2 per year, on average).
> Finally, regarding the animation itself: I Think the gray dots are
> still the best option, and the clearest. They fit the style, but won't
> be confused with APs. If we can in any way manage it, coloring the XO
> in the child's chosen colors is really the way that color should be
> introduced. The colored dots seem to undermine the importance of that
> metaphor, for me. Everywhere else in the UI, color relates to
> identity; has meaning. (All the more reason to change the sugar logo
> colors with each release!) These randomly colored dots just don't seem
> fit within that concept.
> Also, if no "dot" solution seems to gain consensus, we could go back
> to a simple progress bar, which is perhaps less interesting, but
> simple and clean and matches the UI.
> Eben
>> thanks
>> Sean
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Frederick Grose <fgrose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Please indulge me to make another pitch for the 'sunrise' metaphor for the
>>> growing ring.
>>> Using the same color locations, the ring would build from sunrise orange to
>>> midday yellow to afternoon greens and blues to dusky red-violets (perhaps
>>> the darker one last).  These are just common earth metaphors that might come
>>> to mind as children worldwide--who may have never seen a analog or digital
>>> clock--anticipate what may be waiting for them in their day ahead of them.
>>> The ring would also build from one foot, and end symmetrically on the
>>> other--a growth surrounding the nascent learner like a cover--a home--a safe
>>> shelter for learning or a shower of celestial opportunities.  "Will I grow
>>> too like the graphic is suggesting?"
>>> OK, these are just potential metaphors...
>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Frederick Grose <fgrose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I like that a lot.
>>>> I'm with others on leaving the version number as well to the 'About my
>>>> Computer' panel. (It can be referenced and then read as needed after
>>>> booting, whereas the vanishing boot image just makes me nervous about
>>>> writing down or memorizing a long number.)
>>>> The Green Hornet, would of course only appear on a 'Graphic guidelines'
>>>> page for deployments and packagers.
>>>> I suggest you try this sequence:
>>>> 1. a short, blank white field (infinite potential)
>>>> 2. the small xo figure (just possibly me in a big universe)
>>>> 3. the building ring and figure (what might be building for me? Will I
>>>> grow too as suggested?)
>>>> 4. the Sugar, and optional custom graphic,  pausing, usually a
>>>> machine-dependent variable time, allowing for reading (fixing the name of
>>>> this tool and those who built it for me)         Do we want a gray Sugar
>>>> Labs opposite the fedora remix?
>>>> (5. the living, playable, ready-to-open door to Learning--the Sugar Home
>>>> view.)
>>>> Thanks everyone!       --Fred
>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Fred - I have uploaded a new variant to the wiki:
>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant.2C_Growing_XO_Avatar.2C_No_Prior_Outlines.2C_Starts_With_Logo_Splash_Page
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Frederick Grose <fgrose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > I mostly like it.  Seems to be close to what we want for now.
>>>>> > Please consider these adjustments:
>>>>> > 1.  No fine print (leave that for the 'About my Computer" panel).
>>>>> > 2.  Scale the custom school graphic example (Green Hornet) to fit the
>>>>> > other
>>>>> > elements, leave out the fine print.
>>>>> > 3.  Let the rays grow incrementally to complete the ring (no unfilled
>>>>> > place
>>>>> > holders).  I feel more anticipation and suspense from the ring growing
>>>>> > without the preview, and more satisfaction of seeing the completed
>>>>> > color
>>>>> > burst.
>>>>> >         Thank you!        --Fred
>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Here's the second mockup:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant.2C_Growing_XO_Avatar.2C_Starts_With_Logo_Splash_Page
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This version includes a logo/copyright splash page and a "growing" or
>>>>> >> "approaching" XO avatar.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Comments welcome please.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> thanks
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sean
>>>>> >
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