[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Christian Marc Schmidt]

Hi Sean--these look great! Of the mockups, I think this one works the best:

"Variant of XO Avatar Sugar Boot, Grey to Colour Dot Transition"

It really is very effective, and the color helps a lot!


Christian


On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's the second mockup:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant.2C_Growing_XO_Avatar.2C_Starts_With_Logo_Splash_Page
>
> This version includes a logo/copyright splash page and a "growing" or
> "approaching" XO avatar.
>
> Comments welcome please.
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant_of_XO_Avatar_Sugar_Boot.2C_Grey_to_Color_Transition
>>
>> I've finally updated the wiki with my first mockup! Sorry about the
>> delay, I lack graphics editing skills I'm afraid.
>>
>> I have attached comment to the mockup. I keep the XO avatar size
>> stable in this first one, I want to try another one with growing size
>> as expressed yesterday.
>>
>> Note: the idea is this follows a previous page with Sugar logo,
>> version info, copyright notice, and distro logo (+ possibility of
>> school logo). I will try to work those into my next mockup.
>>
>> The spectrum colors were cheerfully eyedropped from an image of
>> Ellsworth Kelly's painting "Spectrum IV" (1967), with the
>> particularity that I thought it interesting to cycle from XO green
>> (mockup green darker than should be, sorry)
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
>> <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Sean--a visual would be good to fully understand the proposal.
>>> I guess my feeling on all of this is that less is more--as Eben said
>>> earlier, the boot sequence is really just the set-up for the UI. I'd
>>> be happy if we simply did away with the split-XO, but I'm also
>>> on-board with adding a bit of color, though I would caution not to
>>> overthink it. The reason the Mac OS boot sequence you mention works so
>>> well is due to its simplicity. Instead of a face, we have the XO as
>>> our emblem--and the circle, while making a reference to connectedness
>>> and community, transitions into a core feature of the UI in Home...
>>>
>>> Either way, looking forward to seeing your mockups!
>>>
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I like Gary's most recent one with the dots filling in color
>>>>
>>>> I got halfway through a mockup with XO avatars appearing, then
>>>> Activity icons, but I feel using either will just be too confusing...
>>>> one could think network discovery was happening, or Activity loading.
>>>>
>>>> After much reflection, I think the friendliest greeting we could offer
>>>> to Learners is a face, a Speakish one with eyes rolling around the
>>>> ring (and a growing smile) while the colors come on. There are still
>>>> many people who fell in love with their little Macs because of the
>>>> smiley face.
>>>>
>>>> But... that's outside the Sugar HIG and I would think twice before
>>>> stepping outside of that. So I reread them and came up with this idea
>>>> (which I hope to mock up tomorrow): instead of dots, I want to do
>>>> oblong ovals like a big version of the Activity spinner graphic. I
>>>> searched high and low on sl.o and laptop.org for an SVG but only found
>>>> a lo-res PNG :-( so I'll just improvise ovals. What I like about
>>>> presenting the spinner is: immediate identification of a waiting
>>>> period, no confusion with other elements (the filled in dots are too
>>>> similar to networks in the Neighborhood view). Also I like that the
>>>> spinner has 11, not 12 dividers; that asymmetry is interesting and
>>>> remains clocklike. I like Gary's proposal of empty ones filled with
>>>> color which I'd like to keep. And... I'd like to start the middle XO
>>>> icon small (e.g. neighborhood view size) and step it up in size with
>>>> each spinner step; grow in importance as the system builds, until at
>>>> the end normal size.
>>>>
>>>> As for the colors, I'm not sure I like the color pairs... I'd like to
>>>> try solid colors, moving through the spectrum rainbowlike. Less
>>>> Sugarish perhaps, but visually stronger might be.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if the initial logo flash is enough, but concerned that
>>>> keeping it around might fight the spinner ring.
>>>>
>>>> Will have a visual tomorrow to show (holiday so I will have some time)
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt
>>>> <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
>>>>>> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
>>>>>> UI.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination,
>>>>> we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of
>>>>> identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree
>>>>> with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of
>>>>> the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work
>>>>> well I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators
>>>>> and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO
>>>>> and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
>>>>>> loading" context communicated by grey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
>>>>>> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
>>>>>> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
>>>>>> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
>>>>>> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
>>>>>> "usually" loads is I think desirable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
>>>>>>>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
>>>>>>>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>>>>>>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
>>>>>>>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
>>>>>>>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
>>>>>>>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>> would be:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>>>>>>>> (seems
>>>>>>>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
>>>>>>>>> dots
>>>>>>>>> show progress just fine)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
>>>>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>>>> feels more natural to me)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agree with that, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>>>>>>>> iconography on colour use)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>>>>>>>> UI...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
>>>>>>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
>>>>>>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
>>>>>>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>>>>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Night,
>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>>>>>>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>>>> treatments.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>>>>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>>>>>>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>>>>>>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software release,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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