[IAEP] GPA Notes from visit on Wed July 8
agoel23 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 9 02:25:57 EDT 2009
Here are some of the specs for the GPA computers that I noted down earlier
-HP Evo 500
-512 MB RAM
I feel that most hardware issues are due to lack of memory.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> First, thanks for the great write up!
> On 8 Jul 2009, at 20:40, Greg Smith wrote:
> > Seemed like a lot to me but most kids did it with a little help at
> > some steps. The other hard work flow was creating two images, one
> > right after the other. Here are the steps for that:
> > - Open paint
> > - Create painting
> > - Change name
> > - Click keep button (there's no feedback that it was saved, definitely
> > need something there)
> > - Change the name again
> > - Click Edit tab and erase the whole picture
> > - Paint new picture
> > - Save new picture
> These steps show a very common mistake/misunderstanding based around a
> central design idea in Sugar – and likely show that idea to be a
> dangerous and/or poorly implemented one. It ties into the whole idea
> behind Journal, Activities, Keep, and Stop.
> Activities do not save, in the traditional sense, when you hit that
> keep button. The object you generate with 'keep' is of the the same
> 'Activity' but with a different state. You end up with a trial of what
> looks like saved objects in your Journal with different states (sounds
> fine so far...). But try resuming any 2 of them at once... The first
> resume will work as expected, the 2nd will just switch you to the
> already opened Activity instance... Sugar believes them to be the same
> Activity, just different revisions, like a hidden chain of versions.
> I'd certainly suggest you not try collaborating with objects created
> like this, especially Write. You WILL be in a world of pain and WILL
> very likely lose work. But in the above case, the importing of such
> objects into Memorise luckily avoided the 'same activity id' problem.
> The correct procedure with current (and past) Sugar is:
> - Open new Paint Activity
> - Create painting
> - Change name
> - Click stop
> - Repeat
> This way each Journal entry is a new, separate Activity – no hidden
> barbed-wire code hooking it to other seemingly separate entries.
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