[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

[Caroline Meeks]

Hi Mike,

Is it ok if I blog about this on schoolkey.net?  Do you have a blog post
about it I can link to? I can easily embed  your slideshow from Flickr and
it gives cusiouslee credit automatically.

Thanks!
Caroline

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mike Lee <curiouslee at gmail.com> wrote:

> By the way, I just got SoaS running on an Intel Classmate 3. It was easy to
> do. But as others have said, there's more work to do to beef up the
> activities. I'm excited! I will be presenting this at next Saturday's OLPC
> Learning Club DC meeting at Gallaudet University.
>
> Photos here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157613785006745/
>
> Mike
>
>
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> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:06:44PM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>> >On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted
>> >> upon (much more importantly)
>> >>
>> >> Im gonna try and make this easy:
>> >>
>> >> SoaS - the latest fedora core based
>> >> I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one)
>> >> Speak - it will not even launch.... why is it then on a disitributed
>> >> stick?
>> >
>> >I have similar problems, and I don't even know where to submit bugs.
>>
>> If you are an end user, then file a bugreport against the buggy software
>> package to the bug tracking system of your distribution.
>>
>> If you use a mixture from multiple sources, then you really are using
>> your own unique distribution, and cannot expext any of your sources to
>> want to deal with your problem: Your best bet is then to test yourself
>> if same bug occur in a clean install from a single of your sources.
>>
>> If you use SoaS, then your "distribution" is whoever put together that
>> SoaS. It is *not* the distribution that was used as basis for the SoaS.
>>
>>
>> You might have luck anyway, filing bugreports against e.g. Debian if
>> using an SoaS based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian. But be careful
>> to mention clearly that you are using a "messy" setup, and don't be
>> surprised if your bugreport is not taken seriously.
>>
>>
>> >We need some kind of organization now that we are in a matrix
>> >situation. We have a multitude of .xo packages, and at least the
>> >following platforms:
>> >
>> >o XO
>> >o Fedora
>> >o Debian
>> >o Ubuntu
>> >o Caixa Magica Linux (Venezuela)
>> >o Mobilis with Linux on XSCALE processor (Brazil)
>> >
>> >In addition to regular packages for installation, we want a LiveCD and
>> >SOAS for each one. That means that we need an automated build and QA
>> >infrastructure for all of these cases, and a reporting database. We
>> >are past the point where all-manual testing makes any sense.
>>
>> I recommend Sugarlabs to *not* try to act as sub-distributor for
>> anything containing Sugar.
>>
>> 1) You are _upstream_ of Sugar.
>>
>> 2) You might(!) want to be distributor too, for a _specific_ SoaS.
>>
>> But really, I recommend to separate SoaS distribution and keep Sugarlabs
>> aas only an upstream for Sugar.
>>
>> What I mean is, play with SoaS, Ubuntu, Fedora, whatever, but make it
>> very clear to non-Sugar-developers that you cannot support the crap
>> you've thrown together - that it should not be considered a
>> "distribution" but is solely meant as an internal testing mechanisms,
>> and if it happens to work ok for others then that is pure luck.
>>
>>
>> ...if anyone then wants to stand up and maintain support for a
>> distribution, then great. Just don't mix upstream and distribution -
>> they are very different tasks.
>>
>>
>>  - Jonas
>>
>> - --
>> * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt
>> * Tlf.: +45 40843136  Website: http://dr.jones.dk/
>>
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