[IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

Simon Schampijer simon at schampijer.de
Fri Feb 13 03:10:48 EST 2009


Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:09:02PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
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>> Ubuntu will sync their changes back to Debian as soon as we can; that 
>> is, as soon as Sugar releases its next stable version. Which brings up 
>> a related question: are "beta" and "Release Candidate"s considered 
>> stable enough for Debian inclusion in your opinion?
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> Not as a general rule, but yes, I'd say so here.
> 
> But changing packaging style has a higher priority for me than bumping 
> to next stable release: I really want more people to help package for 
> Debian, and the only one really interested (you!) have tried and failed 
> for a year now, due to the current packaging style.
> 
> Also, I want to keep 0.82.x for Debian, to offer an environment for 
> Uruguay and others still using that branch. Also as an excercise in how 
> to get package dependencies and conflicts right when not only handling 
> multiple concurrent _source_ packages but also _binary_ packages.
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> 
>>>> Debian now contains the most unstable sugar release there is...
>>> This comes as a big surprise to me. Honestly!
> 
>> A main problem with *most* of the Sugar activities in Debian/Ubuntu: 
>> They run but don't scale properly to most screens.
> 
> In other words: Bugs not specific to Debian, so unrekated to Debian 
> being "the most unstable sugar release there is...".
> 
> 
> 
>> The second of course is that we don't have many activities: to this we have
>> two solutions:
>>
>> * Wait for Debian to get 0.84 and get the autoupdater, which will download
>> the activities to ~
> 
> That is a workaround, not a solution. 
> 
> Per-user downloading works in 0.82.x too (except for 
> non-backwards-compatible activities, but that's not a bug in Debian).
> 
> 
>> * Package more activities  :)
> 
> The only solution to too few activities packaged!

Fwiw, in Fedora we only package the Fructose activities as rpms. That is 
what we agreed at FUDCon. The rest are kept as .xo and installed using 
tools like browse currently.

Cheers,
    Simon


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