[IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

[Caroline Meeks]

Wade,

Maybe if we were clearer on what needed to be done with activity testing and
how to do it we could get more help.

somewhere it would be good to have a place people could go to to know which
activities to test (maybe even a rank order of what is important and
untested) and how to report the results.

If I had volunteer testers how could we best collaborate with the activity
team?  There is a local event on Thursday evening and I'm hoping to get some
people there excited about testing activities using SoaS.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:

> The purpose of the page is just to keep all the information in one place
> while we sort it out.... Feel free to email notes to us in another format
> and we'll post it.  And I agree that not much testing has been done.
>
> David, my understanding of Moodle is that it's a user (educator or student)
> facing interface, not a development organization system.  So far I have been
> trying to keep all the information regarding developing the activities in
> the ActivityTeam wiki.
>
> -Wade
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Caroline Meeks <
> caroline at solutiongrove.com> wrote:
>
>> hmm, ok I find that page pretty confusing and hard to use but then I'm not
>> a wiki is all type person.  If its working for you and your the activity
>> team then we should try to use it.
>>
>> Maybe you could cross link from the SoaS page.
>> http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>>
>> I think our underlying problem is that there is not very much testing
>> being done.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We are trying to gather activity status information at
>>> http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus - there is a 'soas'
>>> tag which indicates the activity works on SoaS, any errors should be
>>> reported in the Remarks column.
>>>
>>> But despite a few public requests we haven't managed to get any SoaS test
>>> results posted there.
>>>
>>> -Wade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Caroline Meeks <
>>> solutiongrove at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do we have a place for testers to record the what works with which
>>>> release?
>>>>
>>>> If not perhaps someone could set it up on the moodle system
>>>> schools.sugarlab.org using the moodle database module:
>>>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Database_module
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted
>>>>> upon (much more importantly)
>>>>>
>>>>> Im gonna try and make this easy:
>>>>>
>>>>> SoaS - the latest fedora core based
>>>>> I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one)
>>>>> Speak - it will not even launch.... why is it then on a disitributed
>>>>> stick?
>>>>>
>>>>> ubuntu -
>>>>> no read
>>>>> no write
>>>>> no jiggzawpuzzle
>>>>> etoys
>>>>> scratch
>>>>> epathi
>>>>> measure
>>>>> anything tam tam based
>>>>> until very recently even browse
>>>>> pdf reader of any kind
>>>>> measure
>>>>> distance
>>>>> slider
>>>>> video chat
>>>>> abc flower (thing doesnt even exist)
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, that is about 50% of the failed testtube babies...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> what is the solution:
>>>>>
>>>>> we test the damn tings before release.... we do what greg
>>>>> dekoenigsberg quite elegantly suggested. a 3 tier solution:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. make an educator mailinglist.... we get every educator we know on
>>>>> the list. We start off the discussion with what is really needed...
>>>>> the simple stuff... the stuff u guru coders can whip up in days:
>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. typing tutor... all it should do is allow kids to follow whatever
>>>>> the teacher is directing. speed of typing is recorded? accuracy; graph
>>>>> based report; printable to parents... stars given to best pupils...
>>>>>
>>>>> guys these are real world scenarios... not invented by devs.. asked
>>>>> for by teachers qnd not surprisingly thinking why it does not yet
>>>>> exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 same for maths... times tables/division/addition/substraction....
>>>>> groupings of kids, reports, printibale to both parents ant teachers...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. (gdk) guys this is what teachers want... I reallly hate to say
>>>>> this; but the stuff right now on sugar apart from speak, which when
>>>>> working every teacher loves, is an absolute waste of educators time...
>>>>> yes the activities can be properly used... but basics first! mailing
>>>>> list to get the, involved; we mention the activities that we (welll
>>>>> actually they) have come up with, we discuss very briefly;
>>>>>
>>>>> 3: (gdk)then make a moodle/wiki page where educators and devs get
>>>>> together to create the tools that we actually need (the ones that will
>>>>> really chqnge the world)
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope no one takes this is as a critcism of the effort put into
>>>>> creating activities till now; but people... lets frocus... lets sugar
>>>>> mean something for teachers
>>>>>
>>>>> David (nubae) Van Assche
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Caroline Meeks
>>>> Solution Grove
>>>> Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>>>>
>>>> 617-500-3488 - Office
>>>> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Caroline Meeks
>> Solution Grove
>> Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>>
>> 617-500-3488 - Office
>> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>>
>
>


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Caroline Meeks
Solution Grove
Caroline at SolutionGrove.com

617-500-3488 - Office
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