[IAEP] svg animations, no?

Gary C Martin gary at garycmartin.com
Sat Aug 29 10:23:57 EDT 2009

On 29 Aug 2009, at 10:07, Lucian Branescu wrote:

> Your best bet is using a browser runtime, like hulahop. Gecko has good
> support for SVG, but without SMIL. You'll have to use JavaScript for
> animations.
> Right now, the only runtime I know of that can run SMIL is Opera, and
> that one is useless (because it's closed source). You could use
> Fakesmile (http://leunen.d.free.fr/fakesmile/) for other browsers, but
> it's rather slow.

FWIW, Webkit (testing with Safari in Mac OS X) is showing all animated  
SVGs rather well (thanks for the link Bill), Hilbert curves were my  
favourite :-)

Hmmm, there was some interest at one point in making Browse's back end  
(Gecko) interchangeable with Webkit. Also seem to remember Sayamindu  
mentioning he was using Webkit inside the latest Read so he could  
support a new ebook format (and do some other interesting interactive  
book stuff).


> 2009/8/29 Bill Kerr <billkerr at gmail.com>:
>> thanks for information, tony
>> What I stress to my students initially is the strong underlying  
>> rationale
>> for knowing more about SVGs. Some of the points I go over with them  
>> more
>> than once are:
>> animations are fairly easy to achieve (SMIL or Synchronised  
>> Multimedia
>> Integration Language is part of SVG)
>> it offers a path into some core web techniques and standards:  
>> JavaScript and SVG
>> It's mathematical - both simple co-ordinate systems and more  
>> complex maths
>> such as bezier curves. I like the fact that art can be done with  
>> maths
>> good free open source software is available, eg. inkscape
>> the small size (low bandwidth) and scalability of SVG graphics  
>> means they
>> have a big future, eg. in the mobile phone industry
>> images are scalable
>> There are some very interesting essays and SVG examples at this  
>> dev.opera
>> page (view these pages using Opera browser)
>> ie. I see a strong educational rationale for teaching more about  
>> SVGs (this
>> first occurred to me when reading Tim Berners Lee's book "Weaving  
>> the Web"),
>> but confess to my lack of success in persuading anyone else at all  
>> about
>> this :-(
>> btw my year 10 students are enjoying the challenge to make their  
>> own icons
>> to replace the XO icon - I'll be posting some of their icons soon
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:57 PM, <forster at ozonline.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Sugar uses librsvg to render all SVGs, I'm not sure which are the
>>>>>> capabilities of this library regarding animations.
>>> http://osdir.com/ml/gnome.lib.librsvg.devel/2008-07/msg00003.html
>>> "Animation is going to be a lot of work, and I'm not sure
>>> that I'd want it in librsvg. It's a very good, fast static SVG
>>> rendering library, and I'd like it to stay that way."
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