[IAEP] Yet more feedback from Boston! - Chat and Speak
Edward Cherlin
echerlin at gmail.com
Thu Aug 13 22:04:18 EDT 2009
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Caroline
Meeks<caroline at solutiongrove.com> wrote:
> Neither wind nor rain nor flaming emails will deter me from telling you
> about what happened with kids and Sugar today in Boston! You however are
> free to use your delete key at any time.
> Today, working with 6th grade students at the Museum of Science Computer
> Clubhouse I learned not to start a Sugar intro session with chat. It was
> hard for us to believe but the kids spent 3 hours really wanting to do
> nothing but use chat to talk to other kids in the same room!! We did get
> them to use other things but
> next time I will end with Chat, not start with it :)
> We used both Chat and Speak. Chat was more robust.
> I suggest that Speak be limited to about 4 participants. It seemed die a lot and if someone typed a lot of garbdy gook it would try to say it all and get behind. What do other people think of this idea? Should I ticket it?
> I started the lesson by creating a chat, sharing it and showing the students
> how to join from their neighborhood. That worked fairly well.
> However, some of the students wanted to create a private chat. It could be
> done but it was very challenging workflow. The problem is if two kids
> decide they want to chat the natural thing for them to do is both goto Home
> and click on Chat and share that with the neighborhood. This results in two
> chats and much confusion. I don't know how to solve this, as I'm not gifted
> at UI design, but its clearly a problem. Perhaps when you start chat you
> have a UI inside of chat that lets you join other existing chats directly.
The chain of problems in introducing collaboration are described on
the page [[The undiscoverable]]. My conclusion is that collaboration
has to be taught carefully, step by step, and not all at once. I don't
know which are the best activities for doing this. I need to know what
others think. More comments and data, please, either on the main page
or the talk page.
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