[IAEP] [bernie at codewiz.org: Sugar packaging in Squeeze, Karmic]

[Aleksey Lim]

(just cced to lool, since he is interested in ubuntu packages as well)

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From: Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org>
Subject: Sugar packaging in Squeeze, Karmic
To: IAEP <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>
Cc: Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk>,
	Morgan Collett <morgan.collett at gmail.com>,
	Simone Roselli <sroselli at develer.com>,
	Aleksey Lim <alsroot at member.fsf.org>,
	"Christopher R. Gabriel" <cgabriel at truelite.it>,
	Petter Reinholdtsen <pere at hungry.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:16:49 +0200

Hello,

I would like to summarize the current status of Sugar in the upcoming
Debian and Ubuntu releases.  Debian is also upstream to Skolelinux and
FUSS (Free Upgrade Southtyrol's Schools), which are of special
importance to us because they are already being deployed in a number of
schools.

Up to date .deb packages of Sugar 0.84.6 appear to be available in both
Sid and Squeeze, courtesy of Jonas:

  http://packages.debian.org/sid/sugar-0.84
  (see at the botton for a full list of packages in Debian)

Karmic has already picked these up:

  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.84


There's also a misleading sugar 0.83.x package in Ubuntu, apparently
unmaintained since last May:

  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar


There's also a request to upgrade to Sugar 0.86, but nobody seems to be
working on it:

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.84/+bug/358419


Our tireless hero Aleksey is also providing an impressive set of
automatically built fresh packages from his personal archive, including
partial 0.86 builds:

  https://launchpad.net/~alsroot/+archive/ppa
  https://launchpad.net/~alsroot/+archive/sugar-0.86


So far, this doesn't tell us much about what the overall user experience
in Debian and Ubuntu might be like.  In Karmic, sugar-emulator appears
to work fine.  There's also an X session, but I couldn't test it yet.
A bunch of questions come to mind:

1) Is anyone routinely testing Sugar in Debian?
2) Is anyone routinely testing Sugar in Ubuntu?
3) Who is tracking the current status, setting a roadmap
   and handling bug reports?
4) Would someone be interested in pushing this work downstream
   to Skolelinux and FUSS?

The Ubuntu Sugar Team would make a good candidate, but it seems to have
gone silent a few months ago:

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam
  https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam


The full list of Sugar related packages in Debian is quite impressive:

python-sugar                  
python-sugar-0.84             
python-sugar-toolkit          
python-sugar-toolkit-0.84     
python-sugar-toolkit-0.86     
python2.5-sugar               
python2.5-sugar-0.84          
python2.5-sugar-toolkit       
python2.5-sugar-toolkit-0.84  
python2.5-sugar-toolkit-0.86  
python2.6-sugar               
python2.6-sugar-0.84          
python2.6-sugar-toolkit       
python2.6-sugar-toolkit-0.84  
python2.6-sugar-toolkit-0.86  
sugar                         
sugar-0.84                    
sugar-activities              
sugar-artwork                 
sugar-artwork-0.84            
sugar-calculate-activity      
sugar-chat-activity           
sugar-connect-activity        
sugar-flipsticks-activity     
sugar-jigsawpuzzle-activity   
sugar-journal-activity        
sugar-logviewer-activity      
sugar-memorize-activity       
sugar-pippy-activity          
sugar-pollbuilder-activity    
sugar-presence-service        
sugar-presence-service-0.84   
sugar-read-activity           
sugar-sharedstate-classes     
sugar-sharingtest-activity    
sugar-sliderpuzzle-activity
sugar-terminal-activity
sugar-turtleart-activity
sugar-web-activity

-- 
   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
 \X/  Sugar Labs       - http://sugarlabs.org/



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-- 
Aleksey