[IAEP] More about SoaS on a MacBook

[Lucian Branescu]

I've been playing around with running Sugar activities in OS X
natively. I didn't get that far, I only have GTK with Quartz rendering
on OS X 10.5

2009/4/23 Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>:
> I have a dozen PPC Macs, they are workhorses which function for years
> on end (currently running Tiger v10.4), any info concerning how to run
> Sugar on them will be appreciated thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com> wrote:
>> Eben, welcome to the world of K-8 education IT.  There will be G4 machines
>> in schools for years to come.  Schools seldom junk hardware because they
>> have little or no budget to replace it.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>> > [adding fedora-olpc to cc]
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 23:27, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Caryl, the G4 has a powerpc processor, which executes an entirely
>>> >> different
>>> >> binary instruction set from the Intel-based Mac and Intel PC
>>> >> architecture
>>> >> machines.  Since SOAS in all its incarnations contains binary
>>> >> executables
>>> >> prepared for an Intel processor, this won't execute on your G4 Mac.
>>> >> (I'm
>>> >> leaving aside corner cases of having some kind of hardware emulator on
>>> >> the
>>> >> G4.)
>>> >
>>> > Maybe someone would be interested in doing a ppc version of soas? I
>>> > see issues with activities containing binary modules, but maybe we
>>> > should tackle this problem sooner than later, as any of these days
>>> > someone could be interested in running Sugar on ARM or MIPS netbooks.
>>> >
>>> > And there's still lots of PPC macs in the education sector in the US.
>>>
>>> That's true. Does anyone know the typical life span of classroom
>>> computers? Apple started producing Intel machines 4 years ago, and
>>> hasn't produced any PPC machines in the past 3.
>>>
>>> If we expect the market to last, we should definitely address it, but
>>> we should also be careful not to expend too much energy on a platform
>>> that won't exist in a couple more years, especially if it comes at the
>>> cost of more robust support on Intel macs, or other platforms
>>> altogether.
>>>
>>> Eben
>>>
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Tomeu
>>> >
>>> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Again,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I downloaded http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-beta-1.zip.  It
>>> >>> took about 1 hr 45 min on a DSL connection. I haven't opened it
>>> >>> yet...will
>>> >>> get to that later today or this evening.  But, I have a couple of
>>> >>> questions.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is it possible to burn this file to a disk and boot from it?  If so,
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> I unzip it first?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If not, where should I put it? How do I access it?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is there any chance this version would run on a G4 MacPowerbook?  I
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> one on hand I could try it with (it does run OSX).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would still like to be able to run from the SoaS USB with the helper
>>> >>> CD.  Someone else was having problems wiht that too.  Is anyone
>>> >>> working on a
>>> >>> solution?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Caryl
>>> >>>
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