[IAEP] Teacher in Uruguay enchanted to see his ideas integrated into global Sugar update [pr mockup]

[Carol Lerche]

Martin, we have keepers of the wiki.  Most successful social software aroung
-- facebook.  Arguably a CMS.  But as to the wiki, I say ... delicious. :-)

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Carol Lerche <cafl at msbit.com> wrote:
> > The reactions to my post remind me of the story of the lumberjacks
>
> Fantastic story. However, in practice a CMS is often inferior to a
> wiki in that it appoints "keepers". The cook amongst the lumberjacks
> has to cook daily and cannot decide not to feed a particular
> lumberjack. The keepers of the CMS can get antagonistic, or just
> ignore their duties, and that just kills community collaboration.
>
> Same with CVS and SVN - the centralisation spawns politics.
> Distributed control is the right thing -- for all its flaws, the wiki
> *social dynamic* rules -- you get lots of contnet, perhaps a bit
> disorganised, and a thriving community around it. CMSs are
> hierarchical and mere observation shows what they do to community.
>
> All the observations that Linus Torvalds (in various flamerwars :-) )
> has made on the social and political flaws of CVS and SVN apply
> squarely to classic CMSs. Clay Shirky's "Designing social software"
> essay is also relevant here.
>
> cheers,
>
>
> m
> --
>  martin.langhoff at gmail.com
>  martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect
>  - ask interesting questions
>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
>  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
>



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