[IAEP] Teacher in Uruguay enchanted to see his ideas integrated into global Sugar update [pr mockup]

[Walter Bender]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Christoph Derndorfer
<e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
> Zitat von "Benjamin M. Schwartz" <bmschwar at fas.harvard.edu>:
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>> Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>> | Screw the non-existant "Show me the code" functionality and turn this
>> | into "kick a developer's ass" button;-)
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>> It is of course ridiculous to describe these functions as opposed.  What
>> could be more synergistic than being able to see the code and to ask
>> questions of its author?
>
> Oh, I would never say that they're opposed. But I'd argue that one of them
> is quite useless and not worth the effort given the currently available
> resources... ;-)
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>> | I know I
>> | being a pain about a this but I truly believe that a well-established
>> | feedback-loop between deployments and developers is one of the key USPs
>> | here.
>>
>> Perhaps you would be interested in http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6950.  I
>> think all these things would go together nicely.
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> "Changed 2 months ago by gregorio
> milestone deleted Milestone Never Assigned deleted "
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> 'nuff said!
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> This being one of hundreds of bugs in trac isn't merely enough. To me this
> is quite a binary decision, either we do it (1), or we don't (0). At the
> moment neither OLPC nor Sugar Labs has an adequate process in place to
> gather feedback and integrate it into development decisions (or at least
> none that I'm aware off). Having that would be a major feature and selling
> point compared to any other currently available solution.
>
> Christoph
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>> (and yes, I also think that IRC would be a poor choice of implementation,
>> especially when the entire system is tightly integrated with XMPP.)
>>
>> - --Ben
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> Christoph Derndorfer
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Part of the continued problem with Trac is that bugs don't always get
circulated to the correct audience. (And subscribing to the firehose
is almost useless, as you inevitably miss things of interest.) I wish
I had seen #6950 when it was originally posted instead of only just
now!! So yes, I agree that there are inadequate tools. But what should
we build? I think it is low-hanging fruit to encourage more Sugar
users to use a chatroom that we have Sugar folks hang out in (we can
make a schedule or office hours). Sending people to deployments is a
nice idea, but it doesn't scale and it costs real money to move atoms.

-walter