[IAEP] Teacher in Uruguay enchanted to see his ideas integrated into global Sugar update [pr mockup]

Christoph Derndorfer e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at
Tue Sep 16 17:45:01 EDT 2008

Mmmm, I know I'm being the cranky one here today but I can't be the 
only one thinking that IRC (or any activity based on it) isn't all 
great a solution. Even for an immediate stop-gap solution it sucks. A 

As C.Scott mentioned we really need two solutions: a social one and a 
technological one. For the social one we need to get people to 
deployments. For the technical one we need to find the easiest possible 
way for people to get comments, suggestions, ideas, rants from wherever 
they are to this list and other appropiate places.

Here's my current thinking:

Screw the non-existant "Show me the code" functionality and turn this 
into "kick a developer's ass" button;-)

Seriously, also with regard to the recent Windows XP in Peru 
announcement what we need to do is offer a competitive advantage to 
such a solution. I know I
being a pain about a this but I truly believe that a well-established 
feedback-loop between deployments and developers is one of the key USPs 

At the end of the day this is of course a major decision in terms of 
Sugar Labs' scope. Personally, I'm still a fan of a very early message 
by Ivan K. which specifically asked for Sugar Labs to be more than 
"just" a software outfit...

Anyway, 'nuff said for a day,

Zitat von Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:

> All very good points. At the time, there were a number of issues we
> hadn't resolved: what channel to default to ; what to do at the back
> end in terms of manning the channel(s); what to do about language --
> not of the tool, but the discussion; (now that we have the Sugar
> Control Panel, some of these are all less of an issue) etc.
> -walter
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, C. Scott Ananian <cscott at laptop.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Walter Bender 
>> <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The XoIRC Activity was designed for exactly that.
>> Can we dust it off and improve it then?  It's not translated, it
>> requires kids to type in obscure irc commands (/msg, etc), and there's
>> no way to 'leave a suggestion' that persists.  The title 'XoIRC'
>> doesn't mean 'go here to get help or make a suggestion' in any
>> language I know of.
>>  --scott
>> --
>>  ( http://cscott.net/ )

Christoph Derndorfer
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