[IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

[Gary C Martin]

On 24 Nov 2008, at 22:04, Edward Cherlin wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Simon Schampijer  
> <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>>> Definitely a problem. We are thinking about having a landing page
>>> similar to the one in http://www.eclipse.org/ that hopefully will  
>>> give
>>> a way for everybody to find how to better interact with us depending
>>> on their role. The idea is that a prospecting developer would just
>>> click on one of those icons and would find a simple explanation of  
>>> the
>>> first concepts that need to be grabbed in order to move forward. How
>>> does that sound?
>>>
>>>> olpc-dev list emails are kind of over my head
>>>
>>> Yeah, we should understand better this issue. Is a coder-newbies
>>> mailing list a valid suggestion?
>>
>> Hmmm, I think we should not split those up. In my opinion all we  
>> can do,
>> is to point out clearly that all contributions and questions as  
>> easy or
>> as hard they are, are valid and welcome. We all started there, and I
>> understand it is not always easy to ask 'stupid' questions, but I  
>> think
>> it is important to produce a culture and atmosphere where this is  
>> possible.
>
> A FAQ will help a lot, particularly if somebody takes ownership and
> makes sure to capture questions and get answers from the experts.
>
> A set of introductory programming manuals on Python, PyGame, SciPy,
> and Etoys will help more. We can discuss this with FLOSS Manuals. Let
> Adam Hyde and me know which ones you would like to have, and which
> ones others ask you for.

Just a nit pick, SciPy is much replaced by Numpy though SciPy still  
overlaps enough the documentation seems pretty useful. ~Was  
considering a cellular automata type brick coding activity using  
numpy, sort of turtleart for arrays, and no turtle. Conway's game of  
life being the basic starting sampler.

--Gary

> I am working on creating a newsletter for those interested in joining
> Sugar work. We have two volunteers so far from Olin Coll. of Eng.,
> motivated by the fact that they can't find the news on OLPC (Who can?)
> and that they have had difficulties finding out how to participate.
> Articles on elementary Sugar programming and on opportunities for
> activities will be welcome, as will progress reports whenever you have
> a significant accomplishment or need help. I sent over my links to
> laptop news sources, and some references on a multitude of games that
> people can program if they like. We will collect many other resources.
>
> We will also include suggestions for curriculum, textbooks, and
> content. The idea is that anybody can participate, because everybody
> knows something that the children need. In particular we need
> subject-matter experts (SMEs) in every school subject and every kind
> of business, research, government, or whatever. Also artists, writers,
> reviewers, testers, localizers, translators, and so on and on.
>
>> So I argue, to please use sugar-devel for those discussions.
>
> +1 unless the Sugar Newbies tell us otherwise. We also have other
> lists appropriate for content and the rest.
>
>>   Simon
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sugar mailing list
>> Sugar at lists.laptop.org
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/ 
> دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name
> And Children are my nation.
> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination.
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai
> _______________________________________________
> Sugar mailing list
> Sugar at lists.laptop.org
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar