[IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

[Caroline Meeks]

This seems like a cool teachable moment if you are interested in learning
more about learning theory and vocabulary.

The Sugar community is a Community of Practice CoP -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice

The feedback of the Olin people is on inadequacy of the "legitimate
peripheral participation" that is not having a clear path for people to
participate at the margins of the group then move in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimate_peripheral_participation

How to use IRC is Tacit Knowledge (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacit_knowledge) for an open source developer.
So one of the ways we help people is turn it into Explicit Knowledge by
explaining what it is and how to use.



On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:

> Hi, this is awesome feedback. I'm going to speak from the SugarLabs
> perspective.
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Elsa Culler <eculler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Last night at sugarcamp, we(people from the Olin college OLPC chapter)
> were
> > asked to come up with a list of roadblocks  we have run into in trying to
> > volunteer effectively.  Mel Chua asked me to forward it to these lists,
> so
> > here is the list in text format:
> >
> > we have to come up with jobs ourselves, and we're not too good at it
> >
> > we don't know what we can do that is useful
> >
> > when we are told what to do, we have to check with other people to make
> sure
> > it's ok
>
> Point taken, we need to come up with a good list of interesting things
> that people can start with. Somewhat related, I keep up a TODO list of
> things in http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tomeu that interested people
> can take from my hands. Wonder how we could make this more
> discoverable?
>
> > we don't have easy access to cool things that are going on in OLPC that
> > would get people excited
> >
> >  -for example - it would make people excited just to hear accounts of
> > deployments
>
> Could you check out the weekly newsletter published in Walter's blog
> (http://walterbender.org/) and see how much it suits your needs?
> SugarLabs cannot say much about OLPC deployments, but we hope to have
> pilots of our own soon, and hopefully deployments will follow.
>
> > most meetings happen when we are in class and we don't know what happened
> or
> > give input
> >
> >  - especially with commute (it takes us 1;30 hrs to get here)
>
> Most SugarLabs meetings happen on IRC, so you wouldn't have the
> commute issue. Please check out the meeting announcements in the
> sugar-devel and iaep mailing lists and comment if the times don't work
> out for you, we probably can change them.
>
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/
>
> > it's difficult to find out what OLPC does beyond the broad
> mission-statement
> > sort of thing
>
> Probably, SL could do better as well, can you comment about what's
> missing in Walter's newsletter?
>
> > it took me 6 months to figure out how to use irc, i still don't know
> where
> > trac is
>
> Definitely a problem. We are thinking about having a landing page
> similar to the one in http://www.eclipse.org/ that hopefully will give
> a way for everybody to find how to better interact with us depending
> on their role. The idea is that a prospecting developer would just
> click on one of those icons and would find a simple explanation of the
> first concepts that need to be grabbed in order to move forward. How
> does that sound?
>
> > olpc-dev list emails are kind of over my head
>
> Yeah, we should understand better this issue. Is a coder-newbies
> mailing list a valid suggestion?
>
> > where are things? (on wiki, etc)
>
> David Farning is working on this, following a never ending list of
> complaints from Greg DeKoenigsberg.
>
> > note - if you teach us how stuff works we can tell more people/translate
> the
> > information
>
> Totally, we count on you to help us, we are totally aware that by
> ourselves cannot do it.
>
> > I would like to develop activities, but up until now I didn't even know
> it
> > was up for grabs
>
> Ooops ;)
>
> > Thanks for listening!
>
> Thanks to you, this definitely helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
> _______________________________________________
> Sugar mailing list
> Sugar at lists.laptop.org
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>



-- 
Caroline Meeks
Solution Grove
Caroline at SolutionGrove.com

617-500-3488 - Office
505-213-3268 - Fax
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20081123/40525703/attachment-0001.htm