[IAEP] [sugar] SugarCamp

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian <cscott at cscott.net> wrote:
> -1.
>
> sugarlabs and olpc have the same mission.

Don't know about that, but even if that was true, both restaurants
below my flat have the same mission but I don't think their owners
need to take care of exactly the same issues.

OLPC and SL are different groups of people and have a very different
set of problems. Though there's a lot of synergy and we should take
that into account, of course.

> i think it's entirely
> appropriate to have one day devoted to technical issues, with the
> participation of olpc employees (who are also sugarlabs members --
> even board members).  we have monday, tuesday, friday, saturday, and
> sunday reserved for sugarlab-specific meetings.

I'm personally ok with having most technical talks on Wednesday,

Regards,

Tomeu

>  --scott
>
> On 11/13/08, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
>>> Fellow Sugarites,
>>>
>>> I must say that I'm pretty much surprised as to how the SugarCamp
>>> planning is being done. My personal opinion is that SugarLabs is a
>>> global organization and cannot behave as if it had headquarters in a
>>> single place because it hasn't. SL contributors are going to travel
>>> from quite distant places and they should be involved actively in the
>>> planning.
>>>
>>> OLPC has decided that their XOCamp will happen in January, and I think
>>> that our SugarCamp in November shouldn't be seen as just a prelude to
>>> that.
>>>
>>> OLPC employees can legitimately see SL as a vehicle for their product
>>> to include more features, so they would be mostly interested in
>>> technical discussions about those. But I expect the people who share
>>> the SL goals to be more ambitious and to not forget that Sugar cannot
>>> stay contained at OLPC's borders. We have the mission to bring Sugar
>>> to _all_ the kids in the world.
>>>
>>> So, talks that IMO are more appropriate for this week, along with
>>> people I'm most interested in hearing, are:
>>>
>>> - How Sugar-on-a-stick can better work for deployments such as the
>>> ones carried on by http://schoolkey.net (Caroline Meeks)
>>>
>>> - How Sugar can better work in a LTSP environment (Brendan Powers)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs can better work together with teachers (Yamandú Ploskonka)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs should communicate its message (Greg DeKoenigsberg)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs can make easier to contribute to it (Mel Chua)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs could partner with for-profits that work on related
>>> projects (Collabora on GNOME's telepathy, Nokia on PyMaemo, etc)
>>> (Robert McQueen)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs is going to maintain the infrastructure needed to
>>> support its own operations (Bernie Innocenti)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs is going to fund its own operations (Walter Bender)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs is going to govern itself (Walter Bender, David Farning?)
>>>
>>> - How SugarLabs is partnering with other organizations (David Farning)
>>>
>>> - etc, you get the idea.
>>>
>>> I think most of those talks could give material for discussion for at
>>> least half a day. I really think SL should make progress on
>>> non-technical areas and that this face-to-face time we are going to
>>> have is an opportunity that we shouldn't miss.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
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>>
>> How about wrapping up with a message/mission session lead by Walter
>> and Greg on Saturday afternoon?  Kind of a here is what we talked
>> about, here is how it fits into the overall mission of Sugar Labs, and
>> here is how we communicate that mission via our public message.  That
>> session can run all of Friday afternoon
>>
>> Leading into that on Friday we can work on 'playing well with others'.
>> Staring with Mel and easy to contribute.
>> Specific example and of partnering by Brenden and Caroline.
>> General partnering with for-profits by Robert.
>> General partnering/ local Sugar Labs by Walter and I.
>> That series of session can run all afternoon and spill over into the
>> evening for coffee and drinks.
>>
>> thanks
>> david
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