[IAEP] Distributing Scratch - a summary

Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki at vpri.org
Sun Nov 9 01:56:19 EST 2008


> >1. License.
> 
> For Squeak generally this is an old, resolved issue.

  For Etoys, it is a resolved issue.

> >1. Availability of source code.
> 
> This is an old misunderstanding. I believe noone currently think that 
> source in unavailable - the issue is how to handle the available source 
> (see below)

  Good.

> >2. Maintainability of code by downstream.
> >3. Security.
> 
> This issue of distributor unfamiliarity with Squeak source is the issue 
> still standing. It is very real:
> 
> It is no "misunderstanding" that e.g. Debian ftpmasters (on behalf of 
> Debian security team) admit that they are unfamiliar with patching 
> Squeak objects and thus not confident that they can do so reliably.
> 
> It is also no "misunderstanding" that Debian (and most probably 
> distributions in general) want the ability to apply fixes to their 
> maintained code independently from upstream.

  As Matthew pointed out
(http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-November/002396.html),
Debian can just apply their own fixes.  So it sounds like there is
only unfamiliarity issue, and it should be possible to resolve it.

> >Action Item.
> >Flesh out, and move this discussion to debian-devel at lists.debian.org.  
> >I will start that discussion with the participants of this thread cc:ed 
> >later this week.
> 
> Excellent!

  Thank you, David!

-- Yoshiki


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