[IAEP] Distributing Scratch - a summary

[David Farning]

Please disregard my Scratch related summary. Scratch was a typo, should have
been Squeak.

sorry
david

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Alan Kay <alan.nemo at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just to separate terms ....
>
> Squeak is a free open source Smalltalk found at www.squeak.org.
>
> Etoys is written in Squeak (by Viewpoints Research).
>
> Scratch is also written in Squeak by Mitchel Resnick's group at MIT.
>
> They are different "activities" (in the OLPC sense) but were written using
> the same portable environment.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> *To:* iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:01:48 AM
> *Subject:* [IAEP] Distributing Scratch - a summary
>
> Again, we had a productive thread about packaging Scratch on Linux
> Distributions.
>
> The discussion by members of distributions and product communities about
> their own communities' history and practices has been great!
>
> Sugar Labs Goals.
> Sugar Labs is working to make the best possible learning platform available
> to the most kids.  Squeak Etoy is an important part of that platform.  As
> such, we would like to help facilitate the distribution of Squeak on Linux
> distributions.
>
> Source of Conflict.
> The core issues appears to be that Scratch, as distributed from upstream,
> is provided in a format that is unfamiliar to downstream packagers and
> distribution.  This unfamiliarity is being expressed as a concern by the
> three distributions involved in this discussion.
>
> Effects of Conflict.
> The unfamiliarity has resulted in a number of concerns, real or perceived,
> on the behalf of the distributions.  I am not making a statement of fact
> that the concerns listed below are real or perceived.  I am listing them as
> issues that will needs to be communicated between upstream and the
> distributions.
> 1. License.
> 1. Availability of source code.
> 2. Maintainability of code by downstream.
> 3. Security.
>
> Action Item.
> Flesh out, and move this discussion to debian-devel at lists.debian.org.  I
> will start that discussion with the participants of this thread cc:ed later
> this week.
>
> thanks
> david
>
>
>
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