[IAEP] Sugar on Debian

[Yoshiki Ohshima]

At Sat, 8 Nov 2008 04:26:55 +0100,
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 04:12:13PM -0800, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> >At Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:45:00 +0100,
> >Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> >> The Squeak image "Etoys" (the only one currently packaged officially 
> >> for Debian) is in "non-free" due to ftpmasters judging it not 
> >> possible for the security team to maintain throughout the (multiple 
> >> year long) lifespan of a Debian release.
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> >  Is there anywhere I can read about their reasoning behind this 
> >judgement?  Holger mentions "it's because the impossibility to 
> >bootstrap etoys." but what exactly does that mean?
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> That looks like a quote from a post by Holger in this thread. I believe 
> he describes his judgement of current status better in his summary 
> included with the Debian packaging of Etoys, that I quoted earlier in 
> same thread:
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> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-November/002340.html
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> >  We had a similar discussion that covered the "security" aspect 
> >(http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/015568.html and 
> >emails around it).  Can I see anywhere the responses to these from the 
> >Debian ftpmasters?
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> It seems those discussions took place privately between José, Holger, 
> Bert and the ftpmasters. I have only ever seen the final decision 
> forwarded by Bert to the IAEP list:
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> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-May/000699.html

  Right, the "final decision" looked like some misunderstanding
involved.  After this, more discussion took place:

http://lists.lo-res.org/pipermail/its.an.education.project/2008-June/thread.html

so I was wondering if there was some more updates based on the
subsequent discussion.

-- Yoshiki