[IAEP] Sugar on Debian

[Jonas Smedegaard]

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On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 04:12:13PM -0800, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>At Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:45:00 +0100,
>Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> 
>> The Squeak image "Etoys" (the only one currently packaged officially 
>> for Debian) is in "non-free" due to ftpmasters judging it not 
>> possible for the security team to maintain throughout the (multiple 
>> year long) lifespan of a Debian release.
>
>  Is there anywhere I can read about their reasoning behind this 
>judgement?  Holger mentions "it's because the impossibility to 
>bootstrap etoys." but what exactly does that mean?

That looks like a quote from a post by Holger in this thread. I believe 
he describes his judgement of current status better in his summary 
included with the Debian packaging of Etoys, that I quoted earlier in 
same thread:

http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-November/002340.html


>  We had a similar discussion that covered the "security" aspect 
>(http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/015568.html and 
>emails around it).  Can I see anywhere the responses to these from the 
>Debian ftpmasters?

It seems those discussions took place privately between José, Holger, 
Bert and the ftpmasters. I have only ever seen the final decision 
forwarded by Bert to the IAEP list:

http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-May/000699.html

I doubt there is any secrets in those emails, and TTBOMK all 
participants, including ftpmasters, are nice people, so if interested in 
the whole conversation I suggest you simply get in touch with any of 
them - perhaps ask them to repost to this list?


Kind regards,

  - Jonas

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