[IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu
David Farning
dfarning at sugarlabs.org
Thu Nov 6 03:12:47 EST 2008
Yoshiki.
I'll forward this information to the Ubuntu Squeak maintainer.
Do you know who I should talk to about requesting that
http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/ be update to reflect this information?
thanks
david
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 1. The statement Walter quoted (As of this summer, "all of the code
> contained in our Squeak Etoys version 4.0 is covered by either
> the Apache 2.0 or MIT Licenses.") is correct. Edward quoted the
> email I sent around while ago. We have a license-clean Etoys
> V. 4.0 developers image.
>
> > The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu
> Main,
> > and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in
> > it, and squeak is not totally free. Apple fonts not being modifiable,
> > iirc. Its pretty much the same policy as debian. Scratch was recently
> > rejected from MOTU for the similar reasons.
>
> 2. Apple fonts has been removed from any newer Squeak-variations,
> including Etoys. So, Apple fonts is not an issue.
>
> > Is the issue where squeak was originally licensed under a non-free Apple
> license[1] and the squeak foundations can't
> > locate all of the original contributors[2] to convert it to an mit
> license?
> >
> > http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/
> > http://netjam.org/squeak/contributors/missingSignatories
>
> 3. Just looking at "missingSignatories" without looking at actual
> code is misleading because their code are alreay removed or
> rewritten.
>
> 4. We haven't made an RPM or any package from the dev image yet.
> Making a RPM doesn't take long, but we just haven't gotten around
> testing it enough... Of course, one way to test it is to create
> an RPM and have people try. If you say we should, we can
> certainly do so from the current v 4.0.
>
> 5. So, if the license was the problem, there shouldn't be any
> problem for including the latest version of Etoys into such
> distros. If the development model is the problem, well,
> solutions are potentially implementable, but would take some time
> to carray through.
>
> -- Yoshiki
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