[IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

[David Van Assche]

David: Yeah thats the one.

Vik: The edubuntu community is seeing how it can move the edubuntu
portion into universe, though that then limits support, as only main
and restricted get full support from ubuntu developers. It is
currently unsure what will go where, but edubuntu in universe means
more developers and potentially more apps.

Here is the explanation of licensing from the ubuntu pages:

"main" component

The main distribution component contains applications that are free
software, can freely be redistributed and are fully supported by the
Ubuntu team. This includes the most popular and most reliable open
source applications available, much of which is installed by default
when you install Ubuntu.

Software in main includes a hand-selected list of applications that
the Ubuntu developers, community, and users feel are important and
that the Ubuntu security and distribution team are willing to support.
When you install software from the main component you are assured that
the software will come with security updates and technical support.

We believe that the software in main includes everything most people
will need for a fully functional desktop or internet server running
only open source software.

The licences for software applications in main must be free, but main
may also may contain binary firmware and selected fonts that cannot be
modified without permission from their authors. In all cases
redistribution is unencumbered.

"universe" component

The universe component is a snapshot of the free, open source, and
Linux world. In universe you can find almost every piece of open
source software, and software available under a variety of less open
licences, all built automatically from a variety of public sources.
All of this software is compiled against the libraries and using the
tools that form part of main, so it should install and work well with
the software in main, but it comes with no guarantee of security fixes
and support. The universe component includes thousands of pieces of
software. Through universe, users are able to have the diversity and
flexibility offered by the vast open source world on top of a stable
Ubuntu core.

Canonical does not provide a guarantee of regular security updates for
software found in universe but will provide these where they are made
available by the community. Users should understand the risk inherent
in using packages from the universe component.

Popular or well supported pieces of software will move from universe
into main if they are backed by maintainers willing to meet the
standards set for main by the Ubuntu team.

Regards,
David

On 11/6/08, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:18 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu Main,
> > and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in
> > it, and squeak is not totally free. Apple fonts not being modifiable,
> > iirc. Its pretty much the same policy as debian. Scratch was recently
> > rejected from MOTU for the similar reasons.
> >
> > David Van Assche
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Is the issue where squeak was originally licensed under a non-free Apple
> license[1] and the squeak foundations can't locate all of the original
> contributors[2] to convert it to an mit license?
>
> 1. http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/
> 2.
> http://netjam.org/squeak/contributors/missingSignatories
>
> david
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/6/08, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> > >
> > >  On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote:
> > >
> > >  > .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu.  If I
> > >
> > > > remember this issue was beaten to death before I got involved with SL.
> > >
> > >
> > > I only remember discussion of getting it into Debian, not Ubuntu.
> > >  Basically, even though the license issues are finally resolved, they
> > >  did not want to have it in because they do not agree with its current
> > >  development model:
> > >
> > >
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/015479.html
> > >
> > >  - Bert -
> > >
> > >
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