[IAEP] sugar on standard laptops

John Watlington wad at laptop.org
Tue Jun 10 04:54:02 CEST 2008

The collaboration middleware of Sugar supports infrastructure-less  
As long as the laptops are in the same subnet, they should be able to  

Unless you have a centralized presence server, you will have trouble
with more than 20 or so laptops on the network (which may be more
than one WAP, as long as they are in the same subnet).


On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Costello, Rob R wrote:

> I'm one of these teachers Joel has been discussing with here - and
> willing to contribute some tutorials etc if we can get it running on
> normal laptops
> Dumb question, possibly, but if one uses a live image, or boots  
> into one
> of the supported flavours of linux, and places these traditional  
> laptops
> in range of an (unsecured) WAP, will sugar just pick that up for
> collaboration ...
> or is it not quite that simple (yet?)
> cheers, moral support
> rob
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: its.an.education.project-bounces at lists.lo-res.org
>> [mailto:its.an.education.project-bounces at lists.lo-res.org] On Behalf
> Of
>> Joel Stanley
>> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 11:00 PM
>> To: its.an.education.project at tema.lo-res.org
>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] sugar on standard laptops
>> Hello List,
>> I've been in discussions with local teachers who are interested in
>> using Sugar in the classroom.  We are looking at using conventional
>> laptops for the task, due to the ease of acquiring them over other
>> options.
>> What work needs be done to get Sugar on $distro working?  From my
>> experimentation, it works, but there are areas where improvement  
>> would
>> change the situation from works to rocks.  Bernie mentions some of
>> these below:
>> Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org> wrote:
>>>> Do you think sugar-on-{debian, ubuntu, fedora} is mature enough to
> do
>>>> put it in the hands of kids in a months time?  Who shall we talk to
>>>> about this?
>>> We're not quite there, actually.  The major issues I see are:
>>> - there are DPI problems when Sugar runs on different resolutions...
>>>  Marco knows the issue and how to fix it.
>>> - nobody (afaik) ever packaged sugar to autologin at power on.
>>>  On Debian, I even had to configure the X session to start Sugar
>>>  on my own.
>>> - I think the presence service, ohm, and other daemons need some
>>>  integration work.
>> To those doing the great Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora packaging work;  
>> are
>> you aware of the extra integration of daemons that Bernie mentions?
>> For example, I hadn't thought about ohm.  Should someone spend  
>> time on
>> that, or would using something like gnome-power-manager - which has a
>> lot more usage, afaik, than ohm - make more sense?
>> Joel
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