[IAEP] [FM Discuss] Book sprint aug 16-23

[Walter Bender]

> David or Walter, do you have time for a Skype chat this week?
I'm available most any time tomorrow (Thursday).

> Or shall we talk about this at a Thursday con call? Any time but 10 am CST or  4 pm CST works for me.
Ditto.

BTW, I've made a rough draft of the 8.20 version of Sugar
getting-started in a somewhat non-OLPC-centric way:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/sandbox

-walter

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Anne Gentle <annegentle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi again everyone -
> I'm feeling déjà vu. :) We had the same discussions last year trying to meet
> a ship deadline and some volunteers got really burned out trying to get a
> finalized English version in time for about 8 translations... the effort was
> intense, but not long lasting, and now here we are again. :)
>
> I agree that we meet the Aug 10th deadline by distinctly defining what it is
> that ships on that date. I would say that a PDF or HTML English version that
> ships with Sugar is a good goal for starters. How can I find out what needs
> to be different about the current manual? What are our priorities for
> additional content? Which Activities are highest priority? David or Walter,
> do you have time for a Skype chat this week? Or shall we talk about this at
> a Thursday con call? Any time but 10 am CST or  4 pm CST works for me.
>
> Adam, I'll take a first crack at creating chapters, and I was just going to
> ask you how best to structure the Activity docs/chapters in a way you think
> they'd work well in FM... do you have the time for a Skype chat after your
> book sprint work is done today? (so sorry this activity is overlapping so
> much! You must be getting whiplash!) :)
>
> Could we use the http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DocumentationTeam page to
> start mapping out who could take which chapters?
>
> Here are my ideas, and I'll also put this on the wiki page
> * Write Getting started guide updates for the changes in the build, ensuring
> the hardware dependencies are lifted.
> * Write Activities individual chapters (or books?) heavily tutorial-scenario
> based. Christoph, thanks so much for working on Record.
>
> Audience is kids and teachers. While programmer doc is listed on the
> documentation page, I think FM has a different audience in mind. Let me know
> if that needs to change.
>
> Please let me know if that's enough focus for now and I'll start building
> scaffolding after getting clarity at Thursday's meeting.
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:07 AM, adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net> wrote:
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>> my preference is that we bite off something digestable....
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>> I would recommend that we meet the aug deadline for shipping the docs by
>> doing work on irc and...shock horror....the web! ;) we have the
>> tools...we could then structure docs in fm (floss manuals) and assign
>> chapters all via irc/email. Anne knows the tools well and can set up the
>> manuals according to spec and then we start writing immediately...some
>> of us could contribute also from Wikimania (I will be there as I expect
>> Mako will be and there surely will be an OLPC/Sugar presence like last
>> year)
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>> then the booksprint still happens but it is a concentrated blast, and an
>> effort to consolidate the working collaborations to better ensure
>> ongoing commitment to the docs and a good opportunity to get everyone
>> heading in the same direction
>>
>> also... can I suggest that we keep this on the FM Discuss Mailing list
>> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net
>>
>> I think we are dropping people out of the conversation accidentally with
>> these cc lists.
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>> adam
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>> On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 22:21 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Seth Woodworth <seth at laptop.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:38 PM, David Farning
>> > > <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Seems like we have support for the idea of a book sprint.
>> > >>
>> > >> Considerations:
>> > >> Time - Version .82 will be released Aug 10th. Is it worth it to try
>> > >> to
>> > >> hit that release date?  As much as I would like to say yes, we should
>> > >> not push things too fast.  My key goal in setting up the sprint is to
>> > >> create a _concrete_ event where people can come together to and help
>> > >> OLPC.  Let's take our time and use this as a test run at community.
>> > >
>> > > As much as I would like a complete set of documentation for Sugar, if
>> > > we can
>> > > get the event done sooner it can ship on thousands of G1G1 machines.
>> > >  This
>> > > is an important consideration.  Can we make a list of who could make
>> > > it to
>> > > Boston in a very short period of time for a Sprint and decide from
>> > > there?
>> >
>> > Let's look at it another way. How much needs to be done to get
>> > something ready for this release and shipment? How inaccurate is the
>> > current manual?
>> >
>> > Can we do that task online, starting right away, and then have the
>> > sprint for whatever is appropriate after that? I can rearrange my own
>> > schedule somewhat to accommodate an important rush project.
>> >
>> > >> Location - Seth mentioned the availability of space at the OLPC's
>> > >> offices.  That would be great if it were possible.  The marketing
>> > >> angle
>> > >> of volunteers coming together to olpc's offices for a sprint would be
>> > >> great.
>> > >
>> > > One way or another, locations will be had here in Boston.  Kim
>> > > approved
>> > > support for the event at the 1cc office so long as both conference
>> > > rooms
>> > > aren't booked.  And even spilling over onto MIT isn't that big of
>> > > deal.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> The Big question is would Adam and Anne feel comfortable running the
>> > >> sprint on OLPC's turf.  Adam and Anne are the domain experts.   We
>> > >> need
>> > >> to give them the room to leverage the OLPC effort and enthusiasm
>> > >> against
>> > >> FM's experience.
>> > >>
>> > >> Participantes -
>> > >> Anne Gentle - Texas
>> > >> Adam Hyde  - Netherlands
>> > >> David Farning - Wisconsin
>> > >> Walter Bender - East coast
>> > >> Greg Dekoenigsberg - ?
>> > >> Others - ??
>> > >
>> > > Might I also add Benjamin Mako Hill [Boston] (author of the Official
>> > > Ubuntu
>> > > book and sometime OLPC employee), and Ron Hale-Evans [Seattle]
>> > > (technical
>> > > author via O'Reily, Fellow OLPC/Sugar nut and Linux Foundation
>> > > Employee).
>> > > Personally I've been the editor of my college newspaper and am
>> > > familiar with
>> > > explaining Sugar internals in a non-technical way.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> I will gladly step aside to let a better writer take my spot;)
>> > >>
>> > >> Funding - Between $500 - $1250 per person.
>> > >> I'll do the leg work, but cold calls from dfarning won't be worth
>> > >> much;(
>> > >>
>> > >> Talking to book publishers-- Is FM interested in going that
>> > >> direction?
>> > >>
>> > >> How about setting a tentative date for Aug 16-23?
>> > >
>> > > I would still like to consider *some* event sooner with the
>> > > expectation of
>> > > getting it into the 8.2 build.
>> > >
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