[IAEP] Ncomputing

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:58, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have recently done a bunch of bug reports relating to better working
> under both sugar/ubuntu and sugar/ubuntu/ltsp. I'm using launchpad,
> because that is the home of LTSP and Ubuntu too (and I like its
> simplicty.) I've recently tested a cross collaboration setup with thin
> terminals, non xo netbooks, and XOs... They all collaborated and
> persistently remained in network neighbourhood without problems, even
> if the XOs were using salut. Though Using a ejabberd server was
> obviously more consistent. I tested many activities, some of which
> worked, some of which didn't, but this was more due to Ubuntu than
> LTSP per se. I'm now testing LTSP with F10 Sugar too, but I believe
> the problems will be common across distros. There should be a new
> article about this at olpcnews.com soon. My point above, though, was
> really to indicate when focusing on future Sugar and its activities,
> there should be testing and bug fixing in this area too. I am very
> happy to help with that to make the LTSP Sugar experience common place
> across existing labs in schools. Here in Vienna, we have been asked to
> expand the existing XO pilot with non xos, and will be using a
> combination of sugar usb sticks/cds and LTSP....
>
> One thing we spoke about here locally was getting some thin client
> device that was really certified to work with Sugar and whatever
> distro... It would be a necessary requirement for country level
> deployments...

Sounds good, what's the work that needs to be done in order to reach there?

Thanks,

Tomeu


> Kind Regards,
> David Van Assche
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Resara guys have done a lot of good work in this area already.
>> They made a report at Sugar Camp, but I don't know if there are
>> associated tickets.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 15:18, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> LTSP deployments range in the millions worldwide, and are definitely a
>>>> necessary target for Sugar. Macedonia is just a small example of what
>>>> has been done elsewhere with terminals that are far cheaper than the
>>>> falsely advertised $100 laptops. In Brazil alone, there are millions
>>>> of computers running LTSP on top of k12linux or edubuntu. Sugar Labs
>>>> should be taking serious notice of thin client technology and adapting
>>>> the UI to work for it.
>>>
>>> I agree with you. Do we have an idea of what needs to be done to sugar
>>> in order to adapt it as best as possible to LTSP environments? Would
>>> be nice to have a tracker ticket in dev.sugarlabs.org about LTSP
>>> improvements.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>>> LTSP has been around for 10 years now, and as
>>>> much as people talk about cloud computing, thin clients are getting
>>>> more available and common, not less...
>>>>
>>>> kind Regards,
>>>> David Van Assche
>>>> www.nubae.com
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I had a pissing match with their founder in the WSJ about a year
>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that written up at OLPC News. Yes, Ncomputing is still at it,
>>>>> just like Intel and Microsoft. Competition, you know. Can't have that.
>>>>> ^_^
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't get any straight answers from him about costs or
>>>>>> learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing usable on the site yesterday. Most of the site is down today.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But Sugar on their Ubuntu thin client sounds doable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should have a word with Macedonia and some other countries.
>>>>> We can't leave all of the sales work to Nicholas any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/09/17/226807/macedonia-rolls-out-ncomputing-clients-for-all-school.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> 180,000 units
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.8 M in India...
>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Has anybody evaluated Ncomputing's claims on cost, power, and the like
>>>>>>> for school deployments? For example,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Interview/Stephen_Dukker_CEO_Ncomputing/articleshow/3820649.cms
>>>>>>> http://www.ncomputing.com/republic-of-macedonia.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They run Ubuntu (or Windows) over thin clients, so they could run
>>>>>>> Sugar once the packaging problems are fixed (The journal currently
>>>>>>> saves precisely nothing). Has anybody talked with them?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Walter Bender
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