[IAEP] Ncomputing

[David Farning]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have recently done a bunch of bug reports relating to better working
> under both sugar/ubuntu and sugar/ubuntu/ltsp. I'm using launchpad,
> because that is the home of LTSP and Ubuntu too (and I like its
> simplicty.) I've recently tested a cross collaboration setup with thin
> terminals, non xo netbooks, and XOs... They all collaborated and
> persistently remained in network neighbourhood without problems, even
> if the XOs were using salut. Though Using a ejabberd server was
> obviously more consistent. I tested many activities, some of which
> worked, some of which didn't, but this was more due to Ubuntu than
> LTSP per se. I'm now testing LTSP with F10 Sugar too, but I believe
> the problems will be common across distros. There should be a new
> article about this at olpcnews.com soon. My point above, though, was
> really to indicate when focusing on future Sugar and its activities,
> there should be testing and bug fixing in this area too. I am very
> happy to help with that to make the LTSP Sugar experience common place
> across existing labs in schools. Here in Vienna, we have been asked to
> expand the existing XO pilot with non xos, and will be using a
> combination of sugar usb sticks/cds and LTSP....
>
> One thing we spoke about here locally was getting some thin client
> device that was really certified to work with Sugar and whatever
> distro... It would be a necessary requirement for country level
> deployments...

DavidvA

Thanks for all of you very good work on thin clients and
certification.  In my limited experience, the certification works best
when done between a distribution and OEM, and driven by customers or
organizations that are operating on behalf of customers.

Sugar Labs will need to keep the release cycle stable and start
scaling up the BugSquad to handle the load.

thanks
davidf

> Kind Regards,
> David Van Assche
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Resara guys have done a lot of good work in this area already.
>> They made a report at Sugar Camp, but I don't know if there are
>> associated tickets.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 15:18, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> LTSP deployments range in the millions worldwide, and are definitely a
>>>> necessary target for Sugar. Macedonia is just a small example of what
>>>> has been done elsewhere with terminals that are far cheaper than the
>>>> falsely advertised $100 laptops. In Brazil alone, there are millions
>>>> of computers running LTSP on top of k12linux or edubuntu. Sugar Labs
>>>> should be taking serious notice of thin client technology and adapting
>>>> the UI to work for it.
>>>
>>> I agree with you. Do we have an idea of what needs to be done to sugar
>>> in order to adapt it as best as possible to LTSP environments? Would
>>> be nice to have a tracker ticket in dev.sugarlabs.org about LTSP
>>> improvements.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>>> LTSP has been around for 10 years now, and as
>>>> much as people talk about cloud computing, thin clients are getting
>>>> more available and common, not less...
>>>>
>>>> kind Regards,
>>>> David Van Assche
>>>> www.nubae.com
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I had a pissing match with their founder in the WSJ about a year
>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that written up at OLPC News. Yes, Ncomputing is still at it,
>>>>> just like Intel and Microsoft. Competition, you know. Can't have that.
>>>>> ^_^
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't get any straight answers from him about costs or
>>>>>> learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing usable on the site yesterday. Most of the site is down today.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But Sugar on their Ubuntu thin client sounds doable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should have a word with Macedonia and some other countries.
>>>>> We can't leave all of the sales work to Nicholas any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/09/17/226807/macedonia-rolls-out-ncomputing-clients-for-all-school.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> 180,000 units
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.8 M in India...
>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Has anybody evaluated Ncomputing's claims on cost, power, and the like
>>>>>>> for school deployments? For example,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Interview/Stephen_Dukker_CEO_Ncomputing/articleshow/3820649.cms
>>>>>>> http://www.ncomputing.com/republic-of-macedonia.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They run Ubuntu (or Windows) over thin clients, so they could run
>>>>>>> Sugar once the packaging problems are fixed (The journal currently
>>>>>>> saves precisely nothing). Has anybody talked with them?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
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