[IAEP] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] Not new, but needs to be addressed

[Bill Kerr]

good responses to leigh blackall's complaints by Jim Tittsler and David
Leeming on this Tuvaluans on Wikieducator thread (scroll down)

http://groups.google.co.nz/group/wikieducator/browse_thread/thread/410a6bb8eaf5aa66

(pointed out by Leigh himself on his blog)

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good summary.
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Here is my list of complaints from that evaluation, which was obviously
> > using a 600-series OS version.
> >
> > not traditional desktop metaphor
>
> Fact.
>
> > no tabbed browsing
>
> I have a proposal for this which I've been meaning to mockup.  I'm
> adding it to my todo list now.
>
> > flaky wireless
>
> A lot better, these days.
>
> > some bad machines: difficulty turning on and peeling mousepad.
> > flaky mouse
> > has a mouse instead of mouse-alternatives (?)
>
> Hardware. (Still important, being worked on.)
>
> > popup menus too slow
>
> This is something we should look into.  Actually, we've slowed down
> their appearance since then, because we found that people were often
> waiting for the menu, instead of clicking directly on the icon/button
> directly.  We've also added the right-click to reveal the palette
> immediately.  I think the current state is reasonable, but more
> feedback on this is welcomed.
>
> > activity startup too slow
>
> Improving a little.
>
> > see address in browser bar should be easier (fixed)
>
> Yup.
>
> > hard to save to USB. Should be accessible from within an activity.
>
> Yup.
>
> > scroll bars too small, especially for subsidiary panes (interesting issue
> > for grab key, BTW)
>
> Right.  The grab key continually eludes.  I know Erik worked on it for
> a bit, but I don't know the current status or if it's possible to roll
> it into a build soon.  If we aren't going to have the grab key, we
> truly are going to have to increase the size of the scroll bars.
>
> > I may have missed a few, but I think that most of these are either
> already
> > the focus of effort (and progress) or have been decided against by many
> > here. The one I bolded is I think a useful one: why not have a "keep to
> USB"
> > and "keep to SD" option in the keep dropdown menu in the activity
> toolbar?
>
> You're absolutely right, and that has definitely been the plan.
> External devices have never gotten any polish; hopefully as we
> redesign the manner in which they work and interact with the Journal
> we can also add these types of features.
>
> - Eben
>
> > Jameson
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> FYI.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Valerie Taylor <vtaylor at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:13 AM
> >> Subject: [OLPC-SF] Not new, but needs to be addressed
> >> To: olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org
> >>
> >>
> >> This just in from a well-meaning colleague who was using XOs. There
> >> are lots of issues identified here. There is a serious
> >> failure-to-communicate. These are real concerns for many people and
> >> this is what they hear. It is easy to dismiss this as Leigh's problem,
> >> but it isn't his alone. Everyone of us associated with OLPC needs to
> >> do a better job at bridging this gap.
> >>
> >> Are there good sources of information that address these issues and
> >> guidelines that would ease the transition from PC to XO in situations
> >> like this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/my-experience-with-olpc-in-tuvalu/
> >>
> >> ..Valerie
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