[Gsoc] GSoC Mentor's summit (and bugging Sascha)

[David Farning]

+1

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Bryan Berry<bryan at olenepal.org> wrote:
> +1
> On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 00:07 -0300, Andrés Ambrois wrote:
>> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 11:35:25 pm Jameson Quinn wrote:
>> > Can we have a quick meeting on Friday at 1400 UTC to work out the details
>> >  of payment, please? RSVP if you're on the explicit addressees of this
>> >  message (walter, david, bryan, andres, mel)
>> >
>> > Jameson
>>
>> I'll be there.
>>
>> > 2009/9/5 David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
>> >
>> > > hmmm. I also thought it went the the mentors.  I double checked the
>> > > payment details and Jameson is right; The payment goes to the
>> > > mentoring organisation.
>> > >
>> > > As a general rule, I have been loosely assigning money to whoever
>> > > brings it in.  The logic is that people and or groups that are
>> > > proactive enough to
>> > > raise/earn money should be able to spend it; The intelligent spending
>> > > decisions will come from those who raise/earned the money not the
>> > > oversight board.
>> > >
>> > > It is your to use as you wish; pay travel stipends, pay mentors,
>> > > anything that you think will best help your team and the project.
>> > >
>> > > FWIW, this is not an official Sugar Labs policy. It is just a
>> > > guideline until we have enough money to worry about setting spending
>> > > policies.
>> > >
>> > > david
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Walter Bender<walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Jameson Quinn<jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> 2009/9/5 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> CCing our treasurer.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Jameson
>> > > >>> Quinn<jameson.quinn at gmail.com
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> wrote:
>> > > >>> > A)
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> > Mentors, you may have caught the traffic on the GSoC mentor's list
>> > >
>> > > about
>> > >
>> > > >>> > the
>> > > >>> > mentor's summit on October 24th and 25th (+ some on the evening of
>> > >
>> > > the
>> > >
>> > > >>> > 23rd). Google is paying for 2 slots from each organization, but in
>> > >
>> > > all
>> > >
>> > > >>> > probability has room at the summit for more. As far as I can tell
>> > >
>> > > from
>> > >
>> > > >>> > asking on IRC, the people interested in going are Andres, Bryan,
>> > > >>> > and myself.
>> > > >>> > Roughly, the tickets for Andres and Bryan put together should cost
>> > >
>> > > the
>> > >
>> > > >>> > $2000
>> > > >>> > that Google is fronting for travel. My ticket, including bus fare
>> > > >>> > to Mexico
>> > > >>> > City, should be just under $500. The options for paying that:
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> > 1. I pay myself - I would probably not be able to, so wouldn't come
>> > > >>> > 2. Bryan and Andres each give me 20% of their travel subsidy, so
>> > > >>> > that
>> > >
>> > > we
>> > >
>> > > >>> > all
>> > > >>> > end up with 80% subsidy and paying 20% (ie, figure out how to make
>> > >
>> > > the
>> > >
>> > > >>> > percentages even). This is better from my perspective and worse
>> > > >>> > from theirs.
>> > > >>> > 3. Sugar Labs uses part of the $2500 it made from GSoC to fund my
>> > > >>> > travel.
>> > > >>> > This would of course be nice from our perspective. Walter, does it
>> > >
>> > > look
>> > >
>> > > >>> > feasible from Sugar Lab's?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> #1 is unacceptable. Re #3, I don't know if that money is fungible, in
>> > > >>> that I thought it was designated to go to the mentors, in which case,
>> > > >>> there is little difference between #2 and #3 except the "pain" is
>> > > >>> spread a bit further--to all five of us. But personally, I support
>> > > >>> that option. Maybe we can ask each mentor to volunteer 20% of their
>> > > >>> honorarium?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Oh, you consider it an honorarium for the mentor? Google considers it
>> > > >> a subsidy for the organization, to use however the organization
>> > > >> chooses,
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > > >> most orgs do not just hand it over to the mentor in cash. Certainly, I
>> > >
>> > > would
>> > >
>> > > >> have no objection to getting $500 in cash, but that was not my
>> > >
>> > > expectation.
>> > >
>> > > >> I suppose we have to answer this question before we choose between #2
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > > >> #3. (Bryan already expressed some openness to #2, by the way.)
>> > > >
>> > > > It was my recollection, but I don't know for sure. In any case, it
>> > > > should be used for advancing the cause and bringing people together is
>> > > > in the right spirit. I defer to our treasurer.
>> > > >
>> > > > -walter
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Walter Bender
>> > > > Sugar Labs
>> > > > http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> >
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> Bryan W. Berry
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