[Dextrose] Dextrose Digest, Vol 17, Issue 3

Ajay Garg ajaygargnsit at gmail.com
Thu Nov 3 12:10:38 EDT 2011
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>   1. Re: Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1 build
>      (Anish Mangal)
>   2. Re: Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1 build
>      (Anish Mangal)
>   3. Re: Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1 build
>      (Anish Mangal)
>   4. Re: Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1 build
>      (Jerry Vonau)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:34:17 +0530
> From: Anish Mangal <anish at sugarlabs.org>
> To: Sascha Silbe <sascha-ml-reply-to-2011-4 at silbe.org>
> Cc: dextrose <dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org>, Ajay Garg
>        <ajay at sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dextrose] Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1
>        build
> Message-ID: <4EB25911.6070803 at sugarlabs.org>
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> On 11/01/2011 05:49 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> > Excerpts from Ajay Garg's message of 2011-10-25 15:53:52 +0200:
> >
> >> b. Put a hack, to install "sugar-0.88", and not "sugar-0.84".
> >
> > Are you sure plain Fedora 11 has recent enough versions of all
> > dependencies required by Sugar 0.88? A quick glance at
> > examples/f11-0.88-xo1-py-nognome.ini and the dextrose-f11-0.88 used
> > in there suggests you'd have to pull in at least some backports.
> >
>
> hmm... we had backported a few rpms which are present in the dxo2
> repo... it maybe a question that somebody has removed some more rpm's
> from the official fedora repos.. I guess it should be checked that all
> dependencies are satisfied.
>
> >> 9. The bootup got going, however the display wudn't come up.
> >>
> >> 10. On the sugarless-terminal, I switched to "olpc" login.
> >>
> >> 11. Tried running sugar manually; however the following
> >> stacktarce was observed :
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > I take this to mean that you tried running sugar from a Linux
> > virtual console in text mode, i.e. outside of X. Since Sugar builds
> > on X, this can't work and explains the errors you ran into.
> >
> > Unfortunately olpc-dm sends all error messages to /dev/null by
> > default, making it unnecessarily hard to diagnose this kind of
> > problem. You could, however, start xterm instead of sugar in
> > ~olpc/.xsession and run sugar manually from inside the xterm to see
> > the errors.
> >
> > Sascha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________ Dextrose mailing
> > list Dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/dextrose
>
>
> - --
> Anish Mangal
> Sugar Labs
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:46:44 +0530
> From: Anish Mangal <anish at sugarlabs.org>
> To: Sascha Silbe <sascha-ml-reply-to-2011-4 at silbe.org>
> Cc: dextrose <dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org>, Ajay Garg
>        <ajay at sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dextrose] Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1
>        build
> Message-ID: <4EB25BFC.1030105 at sugarlabs.org>
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> On Thu 03 Nov 2011 02:34:17 PM IST, Anish Mangal wrote:
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> > On 11/01/2011 05:49 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> >> Excerpts from Ajay Garg's message of 2011-10-25 15:53:52 +0200:
> >>
> >>> b. Put a hack, to install "sugar-0.88", and not "sugar-0.84".
> >>
> >> Are you sure plain Fedora 11 has recent enough versions of all
> >> dependencies required by Sugar 0.88? A quick glance at
> >> examples/f11-0.88-xo1-py-nognome.ini and the dextrose-f11-0.88 used
> >> in there suggests you'd have to pull in at least some backports.
> >>
> >
> > hmm... we had backported a few rpms which are present in the dxo2
> > repo... it maybe a question that somebody has removed some more rpm's
> > from the official fedora repos.. I guess it should be checked that all
> > dependencies are satisfied.
> >
>
> The additional dependencies for sugar 0.88.1-dx are:
>
> Requires: sugar-settings-manager
> Requires: metacity
> Requires: python-xklavier
> Requires: python-xlib
> Requires: ipython
>
> All are present in either the fedora repos or the dextrose-2 repos.
>
> >>> 9. The bootup got going, however the display wudn't come up.
> >>>
> >>> 10. On the sugarless-terminal, I switched to "olpc" login.
> >>>
> >>> 11. Tried running sugar manually; however the following
> >>> stacktarce was observed :
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> I take this to mean that you tried running sugar from a Linux
> >> virtual console in text mode, i.e. outside of X. Since Sugar builds
> >> on X, this can't work and explains the errors you ran into.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately olpc-dm sends all error messages to /dev/null by
> >> default, making it unnecessarily hard to diagnose this kind of
> >> problem. You could, however, start xterm instead of sugar in
> >> ~olpc/.xsession and run sugar manually from inside the xterm to see
> >> the errors.
> >>
> >> Sascha
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________ Dextrose mailing
> >> list Dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/dextrose
> >
> >
> > - --
> > Anish Mangal
> > Sugar Labs
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> --
> Anish Mangal
> Sugar Labs
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:51:37 +0530
> From: Anish Mangal <anish at sugarlabs.org>
> To: Sascha Silbe <sascha-ml-reply-to-2011-4 at silbe.org>
> Cc: dextrose <dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org>, Ajay Garg
>        <ajay at sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dextrose] Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1
>        build
> Message-ID: <4EB25D21.6080701 at sugarlabs.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> On Thu 03 Nov 2011 02:46:44 PM IST, Anish Mangal wrote:
> > On Thu 03 Nov 2011 02:34:17 PM IST, Anish Mangal wrote:
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> >> On 11/01/2011 05:49 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> >>> Excerpts from Ajay Garg's message of 2011-10-25 15:53:52 +0200:
> >>>
> >>>> b. Put a hack, to install "sugar-0.88", and not "sugar-0.84".
> >>>
> >>> Are you sure plain Fedora 11 has recent enough versions of all
> >>> dependencies required by Sugar 0.88? A quick glance at
> >>> examples/f11-0.88-xo1-py-nognome.ini and the dextrose-f11-0.88 used
> >>> in there suggests you'd have to pull in at least some backports.
> >>>
> >>
> >> hmm... we had backported a few rpms which are present in the dxo2
> >> repo... it maybe a question that somebody has removed some more rpm's
> >> from the official fedora repos.. I guess it should be checked that all
> >> dependencies are satisfied.
> >>
> >
> > The additional dependencies for sugar 0.88.1-dx are:
> >
> > Requires: sugar-settings-manager
> > Requires: metacity
> > Requires: python-xklavier
> > Requires: python-xlib
> > Requires: ipython
> >
>
> oops, there are a few more:
>
> Requires: sugar-settings-manager
> Requires: metacity
> Requires: python-xklavier
> Requires: ax
> Requires: magnifier-Ceibal
> Requires: FlatbedCursors
> Requires: CapitalFont
> Requires: python-xlib
> Requires: ipython
>
> but, still they are present in the dx2/dx2-freeworld repo.
>
> > All are present in either the fedora repos or the dextrose-2 repos.
> >
> >>>> 9. The bootup got going, however the display wudn't come up.
> >>>>
> >>>> 10. On the sugarless-terminal, I switched to "olpc" login.
> >>>>
> >>>> 11. Tried running sugar manually; however the following
> >>>> stacktarce was observed :
> >>>
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> I take this to mean that you tried running sugar from a Linux
> >>> virtual console in text mode, i.e. outside of X. Since Sugar builds
> >>> on X, this can't work and explains the errors you ran into.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately olpc-dm sends all error messages to /dev/null by
> >>> default, making it unnecessarily hard to diagnose this kind of
> >>> problem. You could, however, start xterm instead of sugar in
> >>> ~olpc/.xsession and run sugar manually from inside the xterm to see
> >>> the errors.
> >>>
> >>> Sascha
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________ Dextrose mailing
> >>> list Dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/dextrose
> >>
> >>
> >> - --
> >> Anish Mangal
> >> Sugar Labs
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> --
> Anish Mangal
> Sugar Labs
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:20:22 -0500
> From: Jerry Vonau <jvonau at shaw.ca>
> To: Anish Mangal <anish at sugarlabs.org>
> Cc: Sascha Silbe <sascha-ml-reply-to-2011-4 at silbe.org>, Ajay Garg
>        <ajay at sugarlabs.org>, dextrose <dextrose at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dextrose] Display not occurring on a "osuilder" dx2-xo1
>        build
> Message-ID: <1320319222.2516.3.camel at F14jerry.home.vonau.ca>
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>
> On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 14:51 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote:
> > On Thu 03 Nov 2011 02:46:44 PM IST, Anish Mangal wrote:
> > > On Thu 03 Nov 2011 02:34:17 PM IST, Anish Mangal wrote:
> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > >> Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >> On 11/01/2011 05:49 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> > >>> Excerpts from Ajay Garg's message of 2011-10-25 15:53:52 +0200:
> > >>>
> > >>>> b. Put a hack, to install "sugar-0.88", and not "sugar-0.84".
> > >>>
> > >>> Are you sure plain Fedora 11 has recent enough versions of all
> > >>> dependencies required by Sugar 0.88? A quick glance at
> > >>> examples/f11-0.88-xo1-py-nognome.ini and the dextrose-f11-0.88 used
> > >>> in there suggests you'd have to pull in at least some backports.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> hmm... we had backported a few rpms which are present in the dxo2
> > >> repo... it maybe a question that somebody has removed some more rpm's
> > >> from the official fedora repos.. I guess it should be checked that all
> > >> dependencies are satisfied.
> > >>
> > >
> > > The additional dependencies for sugar 0.88.1-dx are:
> > >
> > > Requires: sugar-settings-manager
> > > Requires: metacity
> > > Requires: python-xklavier
> > > Requires: python-xlib
> > > Requires: ipython
> > >
> >
> > oops, there are a few more:
> >
> > Requires: sugar-settings-manager
> > Requires: metacity
> > Requires: python-xklavier
> > Requires: ax
> > Requires: magnifier-Ceibal
> > Requires: FlatbedCursors
> > Requires: CapitalFont
> > Requires: python-xlib
> > Requires: ipython
> >
>
> Looking at the attached ini file, some of those are  ";" out...
>
>        ipython,
> ;       CapitalFont,
> ;       FlatbedCursors,
> ;       ax,
> ;       magnifier-Ceibal,
> ;       ython-xklavier,
> ;       python-xlib,
> ;       sugar-settings-manager,
>        sugar-0.88.1-5.61dxo.fc11.noarch,
>
> Jerry
>

The commented out packages do not need to be mentioned explicitly.
They are installed as part of dependencies of sugar-0.88.
(This can be confirmed by looking at "os73dx.packages.txt")

Regards,
Ajay

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