[Dextrose] [Sugar-devel] Sugar UI Dictator

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Sat Nov 20 08:42:42 EST 2010

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Martin Dengler
<martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:06:56AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
>> Martin and I talked for bit this evening and I believe that I managed to
>> persuade him to support my [UI Dictator team] proposal.
> I do, for the reasons mentioned in Michael's "key arguments".
>> P.S. - Later [...] we discovered a confusion about the mandate of
>> the proposed committee; to wit:
>>   Is the main purpose of the committee to act as a UI Maintainer (e.g., by
>>   deciding which UI-related patches to merge) or is the main purpose of the
>>   committee to make UI-related decisions on an as-requested basis?
> I think it is both act as maintainer and make UI-related decisions.
> It seems we're re-invented the Design Team.  I spoke with Gary Martin
> and Bernie and, despite having lost the logs of my conversation with
> Gary, my hazy recollection is that that they also came to this
> conclusion.
> With that in mind, I think we should just have more people actively
> participate in the design team.  I'm interested, so have put my name
> down on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Contacts#Team_Members
> .  I hope anyone else interested in being active, will do the same.
> Michael Stone, Bernie Innocenti, I'm looking at you.
> Gary, can you add / correct anything from our conversation?
> Michael, is there anything I've misunderstood/misremembered about your
> proposal?  Would you want the Design Team to adopt your "what does the
> committee do"[1] responsibilities?
> Martin
> [1]  http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-November/028615.html
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I mostly kind of agree with this. But adding a bunch of developers to
the design team will not help it accomplish its design goals. We need
more designers involved. And we need to stay focused on Sugar's core
design principles. One thing I do remember from your IRC discussion
with Gary (I was on the edge of the conversation) is the need to bring
the HIG up to date. While this may be considered tactical, I think it
is strategic, in that sets the tone for all further actions. (For the
same reason, I have been advocating for an architectural document from
the Engineering perspective.)


Walter Bender
Sugar Labs

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