[Bugs] #2063 UNSP: Sugar should bring up an alert when an unhandled Python exception occurs
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#2063: Sugar should bring up an alert when an unhandled Python exception occurs
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Reporter: bernie | Owner: tomeu
Type: defect | Status: new
Priority: Unspecified by Maintainer | Milestone: Unspecified by Release Team
Component: sugar | Version: Git as of bugdate
Severity: Unspecified | Keywords:
Distribution: Unspecified | Status_field: Unconfirmed
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Comment(by garycmartin):
Replying to [comment:2 bernie]:
> Replying to [comment:1 eben]:
>
> > Of course they would! An incomprehensible error message is useful to
no one, and can—as you say—frustrate or confuse people. However, most UX
folks are not inherently opposed to error message or dialogs of all kinds;
it just happens to be rather difficult to design good ones, and bad ones
are often really bad.
>
> I agree we should work hard to make our error messages clear and
intelligible, but not at the cost of suppressing essential information
that technical support would need to help novice users.
>
> In modern Linux UIs you often need to ask the user: "please open a
terminal and type..." because the GUI is useless. Having no alternative,
Windows tends to provide more informative error messages in the GUI.
Can you suggest some commonly used canned support responses that could be
added to either Analyse or Log activity as toolbar buttons? I'd be happy
to try and carry these through.
> > I'm in favor of showing an error message for an uncaught exception
(since feedback is good!), though I caution against displaying the actual
exception string in this instance. It's unlikely to make sense to the
primary audience. Instead, I would generate some friendly message that
lets them know that the action they attempted didn't work as expected, and
then offering a link into the Log activity to learn more should they want
to dig deeper.
>
> 100% agreed. What icon could we bring up to go with this message? Do we
have a "gasping" or "puzzled" laptop icon in the style of the sleeping
computer that we use for power management?
I'd been thinking of a bug icon (already have an svg one available if
needed, cleaned up from Walters excellent TA efforts). But I do like this
idea of the laptop style icon, x's for eyes and a wonky mouth, almost old
Apple Mac boot crash style. The down side is it might feel XO only
specific for other sugar users on different hardware. Happy to build the
svg if needed.
> > (All this to say I mostly agree with Bernie, but hopefully I've set
some misunderstandings about us "UX folks" straight. =) )
+1 as long as you communicate with the user in a meaningful way, just
talking at them is not so hot ;)
FWIW If you ever see an activity trace back _please_ do trac report it,
these are often the 'easiest' types of reports to sit down for an evening
an try to resolve. A bug is a bug is a bug... FWIW2 I do read all trac
reports and they _do_ (slowly) burn away at my soul until resolved.
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Ticket URL: <http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2063#comment:3>
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