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I get the following messages when trying to create a new repository
in sugarlabs:<br>
<br>
You don’t appear to have permission to create repositories for this
organization. Sorry about that.<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/20/2017 03:56 AM, Samuel Cantero
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Tony
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Walter<br>
<br>
We haven't heard from Sam C. <br>
</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Hi everyone! I'm sorry I haven't replied before. I have
been very busy these days. I don't know much about ASLO
architecture. I just have helped to keep it working.
Aleksey is the correct guy here.</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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I am thinking that rather than keep the metadata
regarding Sugar activities, it might be better to
include it in <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://activity.info" target="_blank">activity.info</a>
(e.g. developers, summary, description, what works,
release notes). This would enable ASLO to generate its
screens from the bundle. <br>
<br>
Jatin now has a working minimal prototype of the Django
version. It would be helpful if it were on the Sugar
servers supporting ASLO.<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We can configure a dev environment in our server and
enable CI. It would be good to keep main repo in GitHub,
inside sugarlabs organization. This will give us more
chance to encourage other people to help. Where is the
prototype right now? I would like to take a look.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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I would like to add some activities from ASLO to the
github repository. Currently I am a 'member'. Is that
sufficient to enable adding a new activity?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Try and tell me.</div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <br>
I have posted issues to each of the activities I tested
on the github/sugarlabs. Several of the activities can
be fixed by simple code changes. More importantly, some
order is needed in the assignment of version numbers and
releasing the updated activities to ASLO. While I am a
developer on ASLO, I don't have the ability to release
new versions of activities in general. </div>
</blockquote>
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I would appreciate your help in setting up the
authorizations needed. </div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Tony
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
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<div class="m_6307486910291391069moz-cite-prefix">On
04/13/2017 01:40 AM, Walter Bender wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Let's try to get Sam C., who
currently maintains ASLO into the loop. I think
he'll have lots of good advice for us.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>regards.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-walter</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at
1:14 PM, Jatin Dhankhar <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dhankhar.jatin@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dhankhar.jatin@gmail.com">dhankhar.jatin@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,<span>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">I think we
need to agree on the use of IRC. If
you want to communicate with members
of the community, you must go where
they are (#sugar). If you want a
one-to-one meeting on IRC with me, I
would suggest #sugar-newbies. It is
normally dormant but works well and
saves a log for later review. It
worked well for meetings with
Utkarsh Tiwari during last year's
GSOC.</span></blockquote>
</span>
<div>Sure, whatever works :). What is your
IRC nickname ?</div>
<span>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">There are
two things that you will need to
have local to the django project.
First is the directory </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/"
style="font-size:12.8px"
target="_blank">download.sugarlabs.o<wbr>rg</a><span
style="font-size:12.8px"> which has
the Sugar activity bundles</span></blockquote>
</span>
<div>Do I need to mirror the whole
setup/directory ? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>When talking about scraping you
probably meant <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://activities.sugarlabs"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://activities.sugarlabs">http://activities.sugarlabs</a></a>.o<wbr>rg instead
of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/"
target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.o<wbr>rg/</a>,
right ? <br>
Also for scraping, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://scrapy.org/"
target="_blank">Scrapy</a> seems to
more popular than beautifulsoup ?<br>
<br>
Also a big thanks for including Walter
in the discussion :D</div>
<span class="m_6307486910291391069HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Jatin Dhankhar</div>
<div> </div>
</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr
12, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Tony Anderson <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
I think we need to agree on the
use of IRC. If you want to
communicate with members of the
community, you must go where
they are (#sugar). If you want a
one-to-one meeting on IRC with
me, I would suggest
#sugar-newbies. It is normally
dormant but works well and saves
a log for later review. It
worked well for meetings with
Utkarsh Tiwari during last
year's GSOC.<br>
<br>
There are two things that you
will need to have local to the
django project. First is the
directory <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://download.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">download.sugarlabs.org</a>
which has the Sugar activity
bundles. The second is the
'metadata' in the mysql db. For
scraping, I would recommend
BeautifulSoup (bs4). The trick
will be to decide what data we
want to capture and add to the
json.<br>
<br>
The json fields in
activities.json are ones I chose
for the minimal system. You may
want to include other
information such as the number
of downloads, which collections
(should be entered as tags in a
tag-field) and so on. One item I
have referred to as flags (I
marked some as X but don't
remember what that meant, oh
well). The intent is to record
the platforms where the activity
works. We also should provide
links to the homepage,
repository page, and update page
(whatever that is). I think if
you have a working scrape tool,
the data it collects can be
expanded as needed (assuming the
tool runs in a reasonable time).<br>
<br>
Naturally, it would be easier if
you have access to the db
directly.<span
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span>
<div>
<div
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501h5"><br>
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<div
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-cite-prefix">On
04/12/2017 01:40 AM, Jatin
Dhankhar wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px
0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">One thing you could look at. On
activities.sugarlabs,org,
can you determine
from Remora where
the metadata is
stored? I assume a
db. Currently I am
thinking to use
BeautifulSoup to
scrape the site to
get that data, but
it would be much
easier to access the
data directly.</span></blockquote>
As per wiki <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Remora_Server_Requirements#SVN.2C_DB_and_app_config"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Updat">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Updat</a><wbr>e:Remora_Server_Requirements#S<wbr>VN.2C_DB_and_app_config</a> data
is stored in mysql
database. I don't have
access to the production
server where ASLO is
currently running,
following file <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/aslo/blob/master/aslo/db-update.sh#L9"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/sugarl">https://github.com/sugarl</a><wbr>abs/aslo/blob/master/aslo/db-u<wbr>pdate.sh#L9</a> confirms
that data is stored in a
mysql db. However it
would be interesting and
fun to scrape the data
from live site. I would
do that.<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks will poke
around the code, looks
to me it's a django
app and I have to
mount it on my django
project, thanks :)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px
0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">If you are talking about IRC as a place to meet
Sugar community
members, use the
freenode #sugar.
This is probably
most active from
8-17 EST (UTC-5). I
am currently in the
Philippines which is
UTC+ 7. </span></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Yes, tried that. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://gitter.im" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitter.im">https://gitter.im</a></a> fits in
naturally with Github
(really sorry for
suggesting a new mode
of communication
everyday) 😅</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Jatin Dhankhar</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at
6:14 AM, Tony Anderson
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
If you are talking
about IRC as a
place to meet
Sugar community
members, use the
freenode #sugar.
This is probably
most active from
8-17 EST (UTC-5).
I am currently in
the Philippines
which is UTC+ 7. <br>
<br>
Localization of
Python activities
is done by Pootle,
when implemented
by the developer.
The developer does
something like the
following:<br>
<br>
from
gettext import
gettext as _<br>
<br>
self.copy.set_tooltip(_('Copy'<wbr>))<br>
<br>
In this way, all
text displayed is
taken from a po
file based on the
locale (e.g. en.po
or hi.po). This is
a simplification
as the actual file
is compressed:
en.mo, hi.mo.
These files are in
the activity
bundle. The detail
is that when a new
version is
released, there is
a master file:
Paint.pot from
which the local
language files are
built. This needs
to be submitted to
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a>
which maintains a
copy. However,
then the localized
version needs to
be added back to
the bundle.
However, the
localizations can
take months for
100 languages so
how synchronize
the po directory
with the activity
release is
difficult. <br>
<br>
The sugar3 vs
sugar issue is
decided. The
community wants to
move to sugar3
(gtk3). The
problem is that
less that 20% of
the activities
have been
converted.<br>
The ones that have
been converted are
low hanging fruit.
The unconverted
ones may require
intensive work
(gimp which
developed gtk
originally has not
made the
conversion). <br>
<br>
One thing you
could look at. On
activities.sugarlabs,org,
can you determine
from Remora where
the metadata is
stored? I assume a
db. Currently I am
thinking to use
BeautifulSoup to
scrape the site to
get that data, but
it would be much
easier to access
the data directly.<br>
<br>
Yesterday
afternoon, the ISP
restored service.
Last time it died
after two days,
but I am keeping
my fingers
crossed. I am
attaching the
django stuff.<span
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span>
<div>
<div
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<br>
<div
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942moz-cite-prefix">On
04/11/2017
01:36 AM,
Jatin Dhankhar
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi Tony,</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">Normally, we use </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org">http://chat.sugarlabs.org</a></a><span
style="font-size:12.8px"> <wbr>or
on freenode:
sugar-meeting
or
sugar-newbies.
These are
logged sites
so that there
is a record.
The second is
more
appropriate
since
sugar-meeting
is used for
SLOB meetings
and the like.
The real
problem with
IRC is time
zones. Email
has the
advantage that
either party
can send or
receive at any
time. Last
year with a
GSOC mentee we
used
sugar-newbies
by arranging a
specific
meeting time
in advance. </span></blockquote>
<div>Yes, that
is correct,
main issue in
communication
barrier is due
to timezone
issues. Since
most of the
people are
familiar and
are available
on IRC, it's
seems to be
the primary
channel of
communication
along with
mailing lists
and email. But
since you said
we can use
anything else,
giving Slack a
try won't hurt
(if issue is
about not
using closed
source
software then
IRC is fine,
or we can try <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://about.mattermost.com/"
target="_blank">Mattermost</a>).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px"> Another part of the process is how to update '</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org/"
style="font-size:12.8px"
target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a><span
style="font-size:12.8px">'
with the
corresponding
POT file to
enable
localization.
We can get
help from
Chris Leonard
on this. </span></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am not
aware on how
localization
works. Do we
need to
download
relevant files
and bundle
them with the
acitvity
before making
it available
on ASLO ? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">I have my Django version available - but the
internet
problems here
are still
unresolved.
The technician
is supposed to
make another
visit today to
see what is
wrong with our
connection.
Let me know if
and when you
think this
will be useful
to you.</span></blockquote>
<div>Let me
know when your
connection is
stable and I
would start.</div>
<div> What
are the
things you
need me to do
in the
meantime ? </div>
<div><br
style="font-size:12.8px">
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">One open issue is sugar3 vs sugar. Currently
two versions
of Sugar are
released. The
sugar version
supports gtk
while sugar3
supports gtk3.
Unfortunately,
gtk3 was
developed to
be totally
incompatible
with gtk. For
example,
incorporation
of one gtk3
feature
requires that
all direct and
indirect
references to
gtk be removed
or the
activity will
throw an
exception.
Several of the
gtk3
conversions
failed to meet
this test and
so fail. The
issue is
whether
curated
activities be
limited to
ones converted
to gtk3. The
positive is
that Sugar
could revert
to releasing
and
maintaining
only a single
version. The
downside is
that 100 or
more
activities
will no longer
be available.
Specifically,
in our
implementation
of ASLO, we
need to show
which versions
of an activity
work on which
versions of
Sugar (e.g.
i86, arm,
amd64, sugar
or sugar3, and
so on). We
also need to
show which
ones support
localization.
There are many
English
activities and
many Spanish
activities
that make no
provision for
localization.
Luckily there
are many that
have no
language
component.
However, for
many of these,
some kind of
help is needed
to convey the
way the
activity
works. </span></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3e3q8n/is_there_a_technical_reason_why_gtk3_is_better/"
target="_blank">Some people believe GTK3 is slightly better</a> and I
think GTK3
will stay but
that should be
asked in
community and
voted upon and
taking in
considerations
cost of
development
and porting,
only a
discussion
will help in
this one.</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px
0px 0px
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solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">You are wading into a deep and vast body of
water!</span></blockquote>
<div>As long
as I have
something to
hold onto, I
will not drown
😅 </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jatin
Dhankhar</div>
</div>
<div
class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Mon, Apr 10,
2017 at 9:11
AM, Tony
Anderson <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0
0 0
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#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div
text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
Normally, we
use <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org">http://chat.sugarlabs.org</a></a> or on freenode:
sugar-meeting
or
sugar-newbies.
These are
logged sites
so that there
is a record.
The second is
more
appropriate
since
sugar-meeting
is used for
SLOB meetings
and the like.
The real
problem with
IRC is time
zones. Email
has the
advantage that
either party
can send or
receive at any
time. Last
year with a
GSOC mentee we
used
sugar-newbies
by arranging a
specific
meeting time
in advance. <br>
<br>
I haven't
heard from
Walter, but my
preference
would be to
use the
Sugarlabs
server since
the content is
largely
already there
and it would
be easier to
make it the
official site
if that were
decided. So in
the short run,
I think you
should do
whatever is
best for your
own
development
process. <br>
<br>
I am not sure
how CI fits
into this. If
the activity
development is
done on
GitHub, then
the deployment
model is to
run setup.py
to create an
xo bundle and
then copy that
bundle to the
appropriate
location in
the <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://download.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">download.sugarlabs.org</a>
tree. Assuming
the update
results from a
PR, the
deployer would
need to update
the activity
information on
ASLO
appropriately.
However, that
process
depends on
where that
data
(metadata) is
stored.
Another part
of the process
is how to
update '<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a>'
with the
corresponding
POT file to
enable
localization.
We can get
help from
Chris Leonard
on this. <br>
<br>
I have my
Django version
available -
but the
internet
problems here
are still
unresolved.
The technician
is supposed to
make another
visit today to
see what is
wrong with our
connection.
Let me know if
and when you
think this
will be useful
to you.<br>
<br>
I have now
tested most of
the activities
(~400). I was
optimistic in
the number
that work out
of the box.
However, a
part of this
is running
them in the
Ubuntu version
of Sugar
(amd64). There
are many
activities
which launch
object code
(mostly c)
which is
dependent on
the
architecture.
I am now
trying to
repeat the
tests on an
XO-1.75. One
issue on
Ubuntu is that
many
activities
assume a
1200x900
screen and so
on a 1024X768
screen
overflow. This
makes some of
the games
unusable since
part of the
controls are
off the
screen.
Because of the
internet
problems, the
untested
activities
tend to be new
ones since I
was using my
local
repository
which is a
snapshot taken
several months
ago. The other
group are the
GCompris
activities
(about 70). <br>
<br>
My intent is
to build a
'curated'
repository of
activities
known to work
and be usable
on the XO and
on Ubuntu (or
such other
platform that
Sugar may
choose to
support). Most
of the
currently not
work
activities
have software
dependencies
no longer
included in
the current
Sugar release.
So the curated
library will
grow as
activities are
repaired over
time. <br>
<br>
One open issue
is sugar3 vs
sugar.
Currently two
versions of
Sugar are
released. The
sugar version
supports gtk
while sugar3
supports gtk3.
Unfortunately,
gtk3 was
developed to
be totally
incompatible
with gtk. For
example,
incorporation
of one gtk3
feature
requires that
all direct and
indirect
references to
gtk be removed
or the
activity will
throw an
exception.
Several of the
gtk3
conversions
failed to meet
this test and
so fail. The
issue is
whether
curated
activities be
limited to
ones converted
to gtk3. The
positive is
that Sugar
could revert
to releasing
and
maintaining
only a single
version. The
downside is
that 100 or
more
activities
will no longer
be available.
Specifically,
in our
implementation
of ASLO, we
need to show
which versions
of an activity
work on which
versions of
Sugar (e.g.
i86, arm,
amd64, sugar
or sugar3, and
so on). We
also need to
show which
ones support
localization.
There are many
English
activities and
many Spanish
activities
that make no
provision for
localization.
Luckily there
are many that
have no
language
component.
However, for
many of these,
some kind of
help is needed
to convey the
way the
activity
works. <br>
<br>
You are wading
into a deep
and vast body
of water!<span
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span>
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<br>
<div
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942m_2297804042014618975moz-cite-prefix">On
04/10/2017
12:00 AM,
Jatin Dhankhar
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div>Sorry for
the delay. I
went through
the polls
tutorials and
I think I am
getting hang
of Django. I
have one query
that is out of
context, what
is your IRC
setup ? IRC
doesn't allow
message to be
delivered or
stored once
either party
is offline,
people login
through a
external
server for
IRC's to
maintain their
availability
in a channel.
May I suggest
something like
Slack or Flock
for
communication.
IRC is good
for quick and
fast
connection but
Slack and
alternatives
allow easy
communication.
(Just a
suggestion,
though)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Should I
deploy the
same polls app
on
DigitalOcean
along with CI
pipeline and
branching
model in the
meantime with
code hosted on
Github ?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jatin
Dhankhar</div>
</div>
<div
class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Sat, Apr 8,
2017 at 6:28
AM, Tony
Anderson <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div
text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
I abbreviated
this thread
because I am
getting
complaints
from the list
that the
emails are too
long.<br>
<br>
Yesterday, I
was able to
complete a set
of 25
activities to
use as a test
base. The
Django app now
has two views.
First is a
display of all
of the <br>
activities
with the icon
and name. A
link for each
opens the full
activity page.
The data for
the views is
in a file
which is a
list of jsons,
one json per
line. <br>
The views.py
reads this
file and
builds the
view from the
jsons. <br>
<br>
So the app
consists of:<br>
urls.py<br>
views.py<br>
templates/<br>
base.html<br>
list.html<br>
activity.html<br>
<br>
with the data:<br>
fixtures/activities.json
<br>
icons/<br>
xo/<br>
<br>
The icons
directory has
the activity
icons (*.svg)<br>
The xo
directory has
the activity
bundles (*.xo)<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, I
am having more
troubles with
the ISP (a new
one). When
that gets
resolved, I
should be able
to send the
above to you.<br>
<br>
I have also
mentioned our
dialog to
Walter Bender
suggesting
that you could
set up your
working model
as <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://activities3.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">activities3.sugarlabs.org</a>.
This would
give you a
permanent
place to do
the
development
and make your
project
visible to the
community so
that we can
obtain
feedback. I
aslo suggested
that the
project
repository
could be
placed on
GitHub so that
again the
community can
comment and
potentially
contribute.<span
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942m_2297804042014618975HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span><span><br>
<div
class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942m_2297804042014618975m_-2022019510050925157moz-cite-prefix">On
04/07/2017
12:23 AM,
Jatin Dhankhar
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am
setting up
Django now and
going through
some
tutorials. I
will setup the
code with a
very basic and
barebones
version of
what we want
to achieve and
put it in a
private repo.
We can even
host it
online, since
I have some
DigitalOcean
credit left.
Will keep you
posted. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>Jatin
Dhankhar</div>
</div>
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class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Apr 6,
2017 at 7:11
AM, Tony
Anderson <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div
text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
In setting up
Django, I
think you will
do it on your
computer not
on a separate
server. Django
handles that
through its
own server and
has sgqlite as
a database
built-in. A
good first
start would be
to set up the
tutorial app (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.djangoproject.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.djangoproject.com">https://www.djangoproject.com</a></a><wbr>/).
Essentially
you will need
to install
django and
then set up
the tutorial
app 'poll'.
Working
through this
tutorial will
help a lot
later on. The
key point is
that after
initial setup,
there are
three
important
elements:
url.py which
defines the
urls to access
the
application,
views.py which
is the python
code that
responds to a
request by
accessing the
db and
delivering the
relevant
information to
a template.
The template
is an html
file with
variables of
the form {{ <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://activity.name" target="_blank">activity.name</a>
}}
transferring
information
from the view
to the
template.<br>
<br>
What I have is
an
application:
aslo. Once you
have Django
installed and
have run the
tutorial app
through
Django's
server, you'll
be ready.
Essentially,
you will only
need to add
aslo as a
second app in
the settings.
One possible
confusion is
that DJango
lives in a
project -
essentially a
directory
containing its
manage.py
admin
interface. In
the directory
is another
directory of
the same name
with the
settings.py
and url.py.
The poll app
is a directory
in the
top-level
alongside the
inner
directory with
the project
name.<br>
<br>
For example,
my project is
schoolsite. So
my setup looks
like:<br>
<br>
/library/schoolsite/schoolsite<br>
/library/schoolsite/aslo<br>
<br>
Meanwhile my
code links
directly to an
activity page
with no index.
I'll add an
index so the
essential
structure will
be there. I'll
also include
the 'fixtures'
to set up a 25
activity
capability.
Fixtures are
csv files from
which the
database
(metadata) can
be loaded. <br>
<span
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