<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
Hi Walter<br>
<br>
We haven't heard from Sam C. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi everyone! I'm sorry I haven't replied before. I have been very busy these days. I don't know much about ASLO architecture. I just have helped to keep it working. Aleksey is the correct guy here.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
I am thinking that rather than keep the metadata regarding Sugar
activities, it might be better to include it in <a href="http://activity.info" target="_blank">activity.info</a> (e.g.
developers, summary, description, what works, release notes). This
would enable ASLO to generate its screens from the bundle. <br>
<br>
Jatin now has a working minimal prototype of the Django version. It
would be helpful if it were on the Sugar servers supporting ASLO.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We can configure a dev environment in our server and enable CI. It would be good to keep main repo in GitHub, inside sugarlabs organization. This will give us more chance to encourage other people to help. Where is the prototype right now? I would like to take a look.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
I would like to add some activities from ASLO to the github
repository. Currently I am a 'member'. Is that sufficient to enable
adding a new activity?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Try and tell me.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
I have posted issues to each of the activities I tested on the
github/sugarlabs. Several of the activities can be fixed by simple
code changes. More importantly, some order is needed in the
assignment of version numbers and releasing the updated activities
to ASLO. While I am a developer on ASLO, I don't have the ability to
release new versions of activities in general. </div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
I would appreciate your help in setting up the authorizations
needed. </div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Tony<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="m_6307486910291391069moz-cite-prefix">On 04/13/2017 01:40 AM, Walter Bender
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Let's try to get Sam C., who currently maintains
ASLO into the loop. I think he'll have lots of good advice for
us.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>regards.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-walter</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Jatin
Dhankhar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dhankhar.jatin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dhankhar.jatin@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,<span>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I think we need to agree on
the use of IRC. If you want to communicate with
members of the community, you must go where they are
(#sugar). If you want a one-to-one meeting on IRC
with me, I would suggest #sugar-newbies. It is
normally dormant but works well and saves a log for
later review. It worked well for meetings with
Utkarsh Tiwari during last year's GSOC.</span></blockquote>
</span>
<div>Sure, whatever works :). What is your IRC nickname ?</div>
<span>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">There are two things that
you will need to have local to the django project.
First is the directory </span><a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">download.sugarlabs.o<wbr>rg</a><span style="font-size:12.8px"> which has the Sugar
activity bundles</span></blockquote>
</span>
<div>Do I need to mirror the whole setup/directory ? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>When talking about scraping you probably meant <a href="http://activities.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://activities.sugarlabs" target="_blank">http://activities.sugarlabs</a>.o<wbr>rg instead
of <a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.o<wbr>rg/</a>,
right ? <br>
Also for scraping, <a href="https://scrapy.org/" target="_blank">Scrapy</a> seems
to more popular than beautifulsoup ?<br>
<br>
Also a big thanks for including Walter in the discussion
:D</div>
<span class="m_6307486910291391069HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Jatin Dhankhar</div>
<div> </div>
</font></span></div>
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<div class="m_6307486910291391069h5">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:30
AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
I think we need to agree on the use of IRC. If
you want to communicate with members of the
community, you must go where they are (#sugar).
If you want a one-to-one meeting on IRC with me,
I would suggest #sugar-newbies. It is normally
dormant but works well and saves a log for later
review. It worked well for meetings with Utkarsh
Tiwari during last year's GSOC.<br>
<br>
There are two things that you will need to have
local to the django project. First is the
directory <a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">download.sugarlabs.org</a>
which has the Sugar activity bundles. The second
is the 'metadata' in the mysql db. For scraping,
I would recommend BeautifulSoup (bs4). The trick
will be to decide what data we want to capture
and add to the json.<br>
<br>
The json fields in activities.json are ones I
chose for the minimal system. You may want to
include other information such as the number of
downloads, which collections (should be entered
as tags in a tag-field) and so on. One item I
have referred to as flags (I marked some as X
but don't remember what that meant, oh well).
The intent is to record the platforms where the
activity works. We also should provide links to
the homepage, repository page, and update page
(whatever that is). I think if you have a
working scrape tool, the data it collects can be
expanded as needed (assuming the tool runs in a
reasonable time).<br>
<br>
Naturally, it would be easier if you have access
to the db directly.<span class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span>
<div>
<div class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501h5"><br>
<br>
<div class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-cite-prefix">On
04/12/2017 01:40 AM, Jatin Dhankhar wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">One thing
you could look at. On
activities.sugarlabs,org, can you
determine from Remora where the
metadata is stored? I assume a db.
Currently I am thinking to use
BeautifulSoup to scrape the site to
get that data, but it would be much
easier to access the data directly.</span></blockquote>
As per wiki <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Remora_Server_Requirements#SVN.2C_DB_and_app_config" target="_blank">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Updat<wbr>e:Remora_Server_Requirements#S<wbr>VN.2C_DB_and_app_config</a> data
is stored in mysql database. I don't
have access to the production server
where ASLO is currently running,
following file <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/aslo/blob/master/aslo/db-update.sh#L9" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarl<wbr>abs/aslo/blob/master/aslo/db-u<wbr>pdate.sh#L9</a> confirms
that data is stored in a mysql db.
However it would be interesting and fun
to scrape the data from live site. I
would do that.<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks will poke around the code,
looks to me it's a django app and I
have to mount it on my django project,
thanks :)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">If you are
talking about IRC as a place to meet
Sugar community members, use the
freenode #sugar. This is probably
most active from 8-17 EST (UTC-5). I
am currently in the Philippines
which is UTC+ 7. </span></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Yes, tried that. <a href="https://gitter.im" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitter.im" target="_blank">https://gitter.im</a> fits
in naturally with Github (really sorry
for suggesting a new mode of
communication everyday) 😅</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Jatin Dhankhar</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 11,
2017 at 6:14 AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> If you are
talking about IRC as a place to
meet Sugar community members, use
the freenode #sugar. This is
probably most active from 8-17 EST
(UTC-5). I am currently in the
Philippines which is UTC+ 7. <br>
<br>
Localization of Python activities
is done by Pootle, when
implemented by the developer. The
developer does something like the
following:<br>
<br>
from gettext import
gettext as _<br>
<br>
self.copy.set_tooltip(_('Copy'<wbr>))<br>
<br>
In this way, all text displayed is
taken from a po file based on the
locale (e.g. en.po or hi.po). This
is a simplification as the actual
file is compressed: en.mo, hi.mo.
These files are in the activity
bundle. The detail is that when a
new version is released, there is
a master file: Paint.pot from
which the local language files are
built. This needs to be submitted
to <a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a>
which maintains a copy. However,
then the localized version needs
to be added back to the bundle.
However, the localizations can
take months for 100 languages so
how synchronize the po directory
with the activity release is
difficult. <br>
<br>
The sugar3 vs sugar issue is
decided. The community wants to
move to sugar3 (gtk3). The problem
is that less that 20% of the
activities have been converted.<br>
The ones that have been converted
are low hanging fruit. The
unconverted ones may require
intensive work (gimp which
developed gtk originally has not
made the conversion). <br>
<br>
One thing you could look at. On
activities.sugarlabs,org, can you
determine from Remora where the
metadata is stored? I assume a db.
Currently I am thinking to use
BeautifulSoup to scrape the site
to get that data, but it would be
much easier to access the data
directly.<br>
<br>
Yesterday afternoon, the ISP
restored service. Last time it
died after two days, but I am
keeping my fingers crossed. I am
attaching the django stuff.<span class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span>
<div>
<div class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224h5"><br>
<br>
<div class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942moz-cite-prefix">On
04/11/2017 01:36 AM, Jatin
Dhankhar wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi Tony,</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Normally, we use </span><a class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://chat.sugarlabs.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8px"> <wbr>or on freenode: sugar-meeting or
sugar-newbies. These
are logged sites so
that there is a
record. The second is
more appropriate since
sugar-meeting is used
for SLOB meetings and
the like. The real
problem with IRC is
time zones. Email has
the advantage that
either party can send
or receive at any
time. Last year with a
GSOC mentee we used
sugar-newbies by
arranging a specific
meeting time in
advance. </span></blockquote>
<div>Yes, that is correct,
main issue in
communication barrier is
due to timezone issues.
Since most of the people
are familiar and are
available on IRC, it's
seems to be the primary
channel of communication
along with mailing lists
and email. But since you
said we can use anything
else, giving Slack a try
won't hurt (if issue is
about not using closed
source software then IRC
is fine, or we can try <a href="https://about.mattermost.com/" target="_blank">Mattermost</a>).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px"> Another part of the process is how to update '</span><a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org/" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">' with the corresponding POT file to enable
localization. We can
get help from Chris
Leonard on this. </span></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am not aware on how
localization works. Do
we need to download
relevant files and
bundle them with the
acitvity before making
it available on ASLO ? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I have my Django version available - but the
internet problems here
are still unresolved.
The technician is
supposed to make
another visit today to
see what is wrong with
our connection. Let me
know if and when you
think this will be
useful to you.</span></blockquote>
<div>Let me know when your
connection is stable and
I would start.</div>
<div> What are the things
you need me to do in the
meantime ? </div>
<div><br style="font-size:12.8px">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">One open issue is sugar3 vs sugar. Currently
two versions of
Sugar are released.
The sugar version
supports gtk while
sugar3 supports
gtk3. Unfortunately,
gtk3 was developed
to be totally
incompatible with
gtk. For example,
incorporation of one
gtk3 feature
requires that all
direct and indirect
references to gtk be
removed or the
activity will throw
an exception.
Several of the gtk3
conversions failed
to meet this test
and so fail. The
issue is whether
curated activities
be limited to ones
converted to gtk3.
The positive is that
Sugar could revert
to releasing and
maintaining only a
single version. The
downside is that 100
or more activities
will no longer be
available.
Specifically, in our
implementation of
ASLO, we need to
show which versions
of an activity work
on which versions of
Sugar (e.g. i86,
arm, amd64, sugar or
sugar3, and so on).
We also need to show
which ones support
localization. There
are many English
activities and many
Spanish activities
that make no
provision for
localization.
Luckily there are
many that have no
language component.
However, for many of
these, some kind of
help is needed to
convey the way the
activity works. </span></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3e3q8n/is_there_a_technical_reason_why_gtk3_is_better/" target="_blank">Some
people believe GTK3
is slightly better</a> and
I think GTK3 will stay
but that should be
asked in community and
voted upon and taking
in considerations cost
of development and
porting, only a
discussion will help
in this one.</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">You are wading into a deep and vast body of
water!</span></blockquote>
<div>As long as I have
something to hold onto,
I will not drown 😅 </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jatin Dhankhar</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at
9:11 AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
Normally, we use <a class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942m_2297804042014618975moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://chat.sugarlabs.org</a>
or on freenode:
sugar-meeting or
sugar-newbies. These
are logged sites so
that there is a
record. The second
is more appropriate
since sugar-meeting
is used for SLOB
meetings and the
like. The real
problem with IRC is
time zones. Email
has the advantage
that either party
can send or receive
at any time. Last
year with a GSOC
mentee we used
sugar-newbies by
arranging a specific
meeting time in
advance. <br>
<br>
I haven't heard from
Walter, but my
preference would be
to use the Sugarlabs
server since the
content is largely
already there and it
would be easier to
make it the official
site if that were
decided. So in the
short run, I think
you should do
whatever is best for
your own development
process. <br>
<br>
I am not sure how CI
fits into this. If
the activity
development is done
on GitHub, then the
deployment model is
to run setup.py to
create an xo bundle
and then copy that
bundle to the
appropriate location
in the <a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">download.sugarlabs.org</a>
tree. Assuming the
update results from
a PR, the deployer
would need to update
the activity
information on ASLO
appropriately.
However, that
process depends on
where that data
(metadata) is
stored. Another part
of the process is
how to update '<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a>'
with the
corresponding POT
file to enable
localization. We can
get help from Chris
Leonard on this. <br>
<br>
I have my Django
version available -
but the internet
problems here are
still unresolved.
The technician is
supposed to make
another visit today
to see what is wrong
with our connection.
Let me know if and
when you think this
will be useful to
you.<br>
<br>
I have now tested
most of the
activities (~400). I
was optimistic in
the number that work
out of the box.
However, a part of
this is running them
in the Ubuntu
version of Sugar
(amd64). There are
many activities
which launch object
code (mostly c)
which is dependent
on the architecture.
I am now trying to
repeat the tests on
an XO-1.75. One
issue on Ubuntu is
that many activities
assume a 1200x900
screen and so on a
1024X768 screen
overflow. This makes
some of the games
unusable since part
of the controls are
off the screen.
Because of the
internet problems,
the untested
activities tend to
be new ones since I
was using my local
repository which is
a snapshot taken
several months ago.
The other group are
the GCompris
activities (about
70). <br>
<br>
My intent is to
build a 'curated'
repository of
activities known to
work and be usable
on the XO and on
Ubuntu (or such
other platform that
Sugar may choose to
support). Most of
the currently not
work activities have
software
dependencies no
longer included in
the current Sugar
release. So the
curated library will
grow as activities
are repaired over
time. <br>
<br>
One open issue is
sugar3 vs sugar.
Currently two
versions of Sugar
are released. The
sugar version
supports gtk while
sugar3 supports
gtk3. Unfortunately,
gtk3 was developed
to be totally
incompatible with
gtk. For example,
incorporation of one
gtk3 feature
requires that all
direct and indirect
references to gtk be
removed or the
activity will throw
an exception.
Several of the gtk3
conversions failed
to meet this test
and so fail. The
issue is whether
curated activities
be limited to ones
converted to gtk3.
The positive is that
Sugar could revert
to releasing and
maintaining only a
single version. The
downside is that 100
or more activities
will no longer be
available.
Specifically, in our
implementation of
ASLO, we need to
show which versions
of an activity work
on which versions of
Sugar (e.g. i86,
arm, amd64, sugar or
sugar3, and so on).
We also need to show
which ones support
localization. There
are many English
activities and many
Spanish activities
that make no
provision for
localization.
Luckily there are
many that have no
language component.
However, for many of
these, some kind of
help is needed to
convey the way the
activity works. <br>
<br>
You are wading into
a deep and vast body
of water!<span class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span>
<div>
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04/10/2017
12:00 AM,
Jatin Dhankhar
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div>Sorry for
the delay. I
went through
the polls
tutorials and
I think I am
getting hang
of Django. I
have one query
that is out of
context, what
is your IRC
setup ? IRC
doesn't allow
message to be
delivered or
stored once
either party
is offline,
people login
through a
external
server for
IRC's to
maintain their
availability
in a channel.
May I suggest
something like
Slack or Flock
for
communication.
IRC is good
for quick and
fast
connection but
Slack and
alternatives
allow easy
communication.
(Just a
suggestion,
though)</div>
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<div>Should I
deploy the
same polls app
on
DigitalOcean
along with CI
pipeline and
branching
model in the
meantime with
code hosted on
Github ?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jatin
Dhankhar</div>
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Sat, Apr 8,
2017 at 6:28
AM, Tony
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
I abbreviated
this thread
because I am
getting
complaints
from the list
that the
emails are too
long.<br>
<br>
Yesterday, I
was able to
complete a set
of 25
activities to
use as a test
base. The
Django app now
has two views.
First is a
display of all
of the <br>
activities
with the icon
and name. A
link for each
opens the full
activity page.
The data for
the views is
in a file
which is a
list of jsons,
one json per
line. <br>
The views.py
reads this
file and
builds the
view from the
jsons. <br>
<br>
So the app
consists of:<br>
urls.py<br>
views.py<br>
templates/<br>
base.html<br>
list.html<br>
activity.html<br>
<br>
with the data:<br>
fixtures/activities.json
<br>
icons/<br>
xo/<br>
<br>
The icons
directory has
the activity
icons (*.svg)<br>
The xo
directory has
the activity
bundles (*.xo)<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, I
am having more
troubles with
the ISP (a new
one). When
that gets
resolved, I
should be able
to send the
above to you.<br>
<br>
I have also
mentioned our
dialog to
Walter Bender
suggesting
that you could
set up your
working model
as <a href="http://activities3.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">activities3.sugarlabs.org</a>.
This would
give you a
permanent
place to do
the
development
and make your
project
visible to the
community so
that we can
obtain
feedback. I
aslo suggested
that the
project
repository
could be
placed on
GitHub so that
again the
community can
comment and
potentially
contribute.<span class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942m_2297804042014618975HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony</font></span><span><br>
<div class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224m_5089198513458135942m_2297804042014618975m_-2022019510050925157moz-cite-prefix">On
04/07/2017
12:23 AM,
Jatin Dhankhar
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
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<div>I am
setting up
Django now and
going through
some
tutorials. I
will setup the
code with a
very basic and
barebones
version of
what we want
to achieve and
put it in a
private repo.
We can even
host it
online, since
I have some
DigitalOcean
credit left.
Will keep you
posted. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>Jatin
Dhankhar</div>
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Thu, Apr 6,
2017 at 7:11
AM, Tony
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi, Jatin<br>
<br>
In setting up
Django, I
think you will
do it on your
computer not
on a separate
server. Django
handles that
through its
own server and
has sgqlite as
a database
built-in. A
good first
start would be
to set up the
tutorial app (<a class="m_6307486910291391069m_6722767647619661501m_-7011079753232270224moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.djangoproject.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_6307486910291391069moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.djangoproject.com" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com</a><wbr>/).
Essentially
you will need
to install
django and
then set up
the tutorial
app 'poll'.
Working
through this
tutorial will
help a lot
later on. The
key point is
that after
initial setup,
there are
three
important
elements:
url.py which
defines the
urls to access
the
application,
views.py which
is the python
code that
responds to a
request by
accessing the
db and
delivering the
relevant
information to
a template.
The template
is an html
file with
variables of
the form {{ <a href="http://activity.name" target="_blank">activity.name</a>
}}
transferring
information
from the view
to the
template.<br>
<br>
What I have is
an
application:
aslo. Once you
have Django
installed and
have run the
tutorial app
through
Django's
server, you'll
be ready.
Essentially,
you will only
need to add
aslo as a
second app in
the settings.
One possible
confusion is
that DJango
lives in a
project -
essentially a
directory
containing its
manage.py
admin
interface. In
the directory
is another
directory of
the same name
with the
settings.py
and url.py.
The poll app
is a directory
in the
top-level
alongside the
inner
directory with
the project
name.<br>
<br>
For example,
my project is
schoolsite. So
my setup looks
like:<br>
<br>
/library/schoolsite/schoolsite<br>
/library/schoolsite/aslo<br>
<br>
Meanwhile my
code links
directly to an
activity page
with no index.
I'll add an
index so the
essential
structure will
be there. I'll
also include
the 'fixtures'
to set up a 25
activity
capability.
Fixtures are
csv files from
which the
database
(metadata) can
be loaded. <br>
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